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Just adding on to the genetic/physical feature aspect of reincarnation, I recently was checked for scoliosis and I have a mild case of it. Not brace-worthy thank god... But Kurt also has scoliosis. I know scoliosis is a somewhat common (one in 100) but I thought I'd add this.
 
apop4523 said:
Just adding on to the genetic/physical feature aspect of reincarnation, I recently was checked for scoliosis and I have a mild case of it. Not brace-worthy thank god... But Kurt also has scoliosis. I know scoliosis is a somewhat common (one in 100) but I thought I'd add this.
That's noteworthy, Apop; and it does add to your total list of synchronicities.


Do you, sometimes, read some of the stories that are in the other threads of the Forum? I think you'll find quite a bit of information that can indirectly relate to you. I know that I've learned a lot about myself by reading and interacting with the other threads. Your input would also be valuable to other people as well.


-Nightrain
 
Apop, now was just reading this thread and so interesting. It


does sound interesting as for you and Kurt Cobain. But I am


in no posotion to say anything. Just Thanks for Posting and


Wishing You the Best!
 
Thanks both of you. I try to find time to read some of the threads, but mostly I quickly come on here to check for updates on my thread. I'm not too busy tonight, so i'll take a look. :) Also, lately I've been thinking about Courtney Love a lot (Kurt's wife and still alive) It makes me really sad and I'm noticing that some of the girlfriends i've had are kinda of like her. I look for very specific things in girls and Courtney Love just seems to be someone who, if she were my age, I would date her. The other night I had a dream I was standing in the mirror and had long blonde hair; at least 1.5 feet. The top was a little short and done up in kind of a mohawk thing and was... pink.. i think. It was the craziest hair style i had ever seen.


Another thing, I had this picture take of me about a year ago and I found it strangely resembled a photo of Kurt I found a few days ago. We're both cooking and leaning to the side with a funny face. Mine is kinda funny though cuz i was blowing up my cheeks lol :) and um ignore the shape of the pancake... it was three in the morning at my friend's house.


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Do you think this means anything? It does to me. To me it's not really the picture that's the proof. It's the fact that I had the idea to strike this pose in the same circumstance.
 
Hi Apop,


To be quite honest I don't see any resemblance between the two of you in those particular photos - other than the pose. I don't think you should put too much into that either though. I could probably find a picture of myself doing something like that too : angel ;)


Even though I know you're a firm believe in the fact that you were Curt Cobain in a past life, it's a good idea to always be a bit critical too. I find it's sometimes too easy with a 'famous past life' (my own included) to be swept away because there is so much information, so many pictures, so many opinions. :)
 
Sunniva said:
Hi Apop,
To be quite honest I don't see any resemblance between the two of you in those particular photos - other than the pose. I don't think you should put too much into that either though. I could probably find a picture of myself doing something like that too : angel ;)


Even though I know you're a firm believe in the fact that you were Curt Cobain in a past life, it's a good idea to always be a bit critical too. I find it's sometimes too easy with a 'famous past life' (my own included) to be swept away because there is so much information, so many pictures, so many opinions. :)
Hello Sunniva,


I understander what you are saying. I respect it. I do have doubts quite a lot but I put only the things I don't doubt on here. Another thing. I was really exaggerating my face in that photo so it really doesn't look much like me. My face is a little thin though.


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But I do have another little story to share. I went to the guitar store recently. When I was there, there was this Robin Egg Blue Fender Mustang and I really felt attached to it and wanted it, but for some reason I got the Fender Stratocaster. About 5 days later I was looking for pictures of Kurt's guitars just casually. I found out that he had had a Robin Egg Blue Fender Mustang himself. That night I couldn't sleep at all. I couldn't stop thinking about that guitar (more than usual compared to those past five days). The next next I went to the store and switched out the guitars and got the Mustang. Again, might be nothing but with all this stuff....
 
In that last pic, you actually look a lot like Thurston Moore from Sonic Youth in his younger days (IMO, anyway).


He's still with us though!
 
I have a question which is probably just flat-out rhetorical, but I'm just asking it, anyway...then probably answering it, too, haha!


Why are we [we, meaning believers] all so accepting to believe that we have lived before, and in this spectrum, having been peasants, victims, Nazis, mothers, fathers, murderers, healers, aristocrats,...but the SECOND someone says that they might have been either historically relevant or famous, so many people cop the attitude of a sceptic? I invite you to take a gander at the bigger picture, people. The plain and simple fact is that Deity doesn't care if you were the guy who scraped dead rats off of the subway rails or if you were Marie Antoinette in your past, so why should we? What makes those 2 people SO different? Why is it taken as nearly not possible that Apop could be Kurt Cobain, but it is perfectly acceptable for someone to have been an accountant? People are people.


This isn't directed at anyone because I don't work like that. I'm just saying that if we're all supposed to help each other and be there for one another in both our amazing discoveries and our grievances, we shouldn't dismiss stories like Apop's or treat his memories with hostile interrogations. Why should he be questioned 100 times harder about his memories than someone who was not famous? If you think that he should be, maybe you should really ask yourself why you feel that way.


Apop -- I think it must have been difficult for you to have such memories and not know where they come from. Now that you do know, I hope you can regress more and share with us. One thing that you said about feeling like you could play guitar...I was a violinist in one of my lives, and I feel the same exact way about the violin, like I should just be able to start playing. I just bought a violin on Tuesday, and when I was carrying it in the case, it felt so right to be carrying a violin.


I don't doubt your feelings, Apop. Never doubt yourself!
 
Apop - sorry for highjacking your thread for a moment for a reply, which is in no way directed at you :)


Hi Ivy,


You pose an important question and I agree with you completely! :thumbsup: I find it annoying that there is such a focus on 'famous past lives'. In my book, there is no such thing - some past lives are just easier to research than other :cool. A while ago a member posted here about his son's memories that he thought fitted eerily with the life of a 'well-known British musician' from the 1950's or 60's, but he never said who it was. It was irrelevant to his question - and quite basically, it was irrelevant to other members. I agree that 'fame' is not a life lesson and 'fame' is so abstract: People can be famous in one region and completely unknown in another.


But I will be the Devil's advocate for a moment here, because reincarnation is a controversial subject, even to some believers, and credibility is essential when it comes to past life memories. On this messageboard we often see people claiming famous past life and yes, they often have to stand more scrutiny than others, because there are so many other aspects to claiming a past life than just to be interested in reincarnation and because it's very easy to be influenced by movies, books, paintings, lectures, etc. on that particular person and their time. If you search the net you will many, many people, who claim to be Anne Boleyn, Marilyn Monroe or Shakespeare - obviously they can't all be right and it would hurt the credibility of this forum if we just accepted any claim that was made.


Again, this is not to say that we don't believe in Apop's specific claim. Certainly, 'famous' people have reincarnates too, but there is a certain wariness about such claims in general, because focus very quickly is on validating whether it really was this famous person or not, and not on the actual point of remembering that past particular past life.


I hope this answered your question :)
 
Sunniva, holy crap, that was a very sound argument. :)


I agree with you that lots of people think people who believe that they have been reincarnated are...you can fill in the blank there. :) While I do think that validity is very important, I feel that it is equally important for people like us to have a safe and non-judgmental place to talk about our memories. :)
 
Apop -- What you should take away from our discussion, if anything, is that if the memories are real to you, that's really what matters. Who knows if you were this person or that person? It's the experience that you have that matters.


Have you tried to contact any of his friends, like on Facebook or something?
 
When it comes to things like this I try to be neutral and open-minded. I'm not one to openly be critical of one's memories because, famous or not, what they remember and what they feel is still real regardless of the name attached.


That's all I will say about "famous lives" in this thread. Apop, your past life identity is irrelevent to me. What matters to me is that you are finding benefits to being a member of our community and that you are able to share feely. :thumbsup:
 
IvyCreep said:
Apop -- What you should take away from our discussion, if anything, is that if the memories are real to you, that's really what matters. Who knows if you were this person or that person? It's the experience that you have that matters.
Have you tried to contact any of his friends, like on Facebook or something?
There is one woman on here named Val who kind of knew him when he was a little younger. Around high school I think. But idk how i would go about finding anyone else. And Inphanta, I guess I DO kind of look like Thurston. I look up to that man a lot.
 
apop, I was wondering if you ever compared your handwriting with Kurt's? There are samples of it on this web page (which I must warn you, you might find disturbing ... it shows his suicide note and speculates on whether or not he was murdered by Courtney Love).
 
I've actually seen his handwriting in a book. It's kind of similar to his. We switch around a's in the same way. You'll see... I'll post some pictures. Also I have read about the rumors of Courtney being connected to his death. I'd really like to hope that it wasn't her.
 
As one of those, who tried to redirect Apop's interest in reincarnation; I can only say that most of us remember a period in our adolescence, in which we had serious identity issues. In addition I observed that throughout this entire thread, he has shown interest only in his own past life; which could, possibly, indicate how much the need for identity overshadows an interest in reincarnation.


On the other hand, I admire his willingness to listen to and consider whatever we have suggested during this thread. And, I know, now, that he has sufficient maturity to take this only in a constructive way. Many of us have a desire to present this Forum as a scholarly and credible meeting point, which has the potential of leaving everyone wary and fearful of laying their soul nakedly upon the table. And so, we are in a quandary as to what is best for the Forum without shooting ourselves in the foot.


It is important for us to know that we, at least, have not scared Apop off; and I have a great deal of respect for him at this point. I also respect you, Ivy, for your firey defense, and for shaking me, in particular. Thanks, Apop, for sticking with us; and thank you, Ivy!


-Nightrain
 
So what exactly are you trying to say? :) I understand where you come from with the whole lack of identity thing... But I don't feel I have to look for a different identity. I like who I am and am very interested in my belief in reincarnation. I don't understand all the doubt though. I've looked at maybe 10 other threads and their arguments sound all pretty much the same. They talk about music, coincidences, and other things and they don't usually receive such criticism.
 
apop4523 said:
So what exactly are you trying to say? :) I understand where you come from with the whole lack of identity thing... But I don't feel I have to look for a different identity. I like who I am and am very interested in my belief in reincarnation. I don't understand all the doubt though. I've looked at maybe 10 other threads and their arguments sound all pretty much the same. They talk about music, coincidences, and other things and they don't usually receive such criticism.
Hi Apop! Your very first post was about committing suicide, which put some of us on full alert. Speaking only for myself, and in my own clumsy way, I tried to steer you away from that possible identity without steering you away from the possibility of reincarnation, and the valuable lessons it has for all of us. I am not qualified to deal with whatever issues Kurt/you had to deal with, and you could have retained those same issues in this life. I can see how it would appear that you were singled out unfairly. That wasn't my objective, and I don't think it was of anyone else here.


-Nightrain
 
I always believe in claims to be right unless proven otherwise.


In my own environment I look at personality traits and compare them to what I found out in books about our family's PL and it's so funny these traits reoccur. It can be so obvious, for example in the PL my former sister holds her head on pictures a bit to the left. In this life she does the same. There are lots of such traits I have discovered with all the people that reincarnated with me. The picture of Kurt and Apop cooking is a really striking example of that. These simple attitudes return. You can of course state as a counterargument Apop might have seen this pic of Kurt once and it got stored in his underconscience. But like I said I believe in a reasonable claim unless it is proven otherwise.


In contrast I do not believe in Kurt's assassination. I also don't think apop physically resembles Kurt from the pictures we know - this is no excluding point though - but I do think he has a resemblance to the pic of the 5 year old Kurt, which might be an indication. Another point in Apop's favour is that - if I get it right - he has a good bond with his parents now. I think the divorce of his parents was a very important issue in Kurt's life. Something he sensed as very painful as a young boy and was a life changing experience and probably not for the better. So it would perfectly make sense to me that, after he went through that painful experience in his previous PL, he returned in a happier environment.
 
Thought I might add another pic.


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Oh and Overseas, that picture of me, as I said, was taken about a year before I found that picture of Kurt. My hair is so much longer now and blonde too. The picture above was taken around.... idk a few months before.
 
Apop,


Remember there is something called genetics too ;) It's not very often that there is a likeness in looks between your current and past personas. Don't get obsessed about it. There may be other things to a person that makes them resemble someone other than looks, like certain quirks. Don't forget that you are someone else now - you've grown up in a different family under different conditions, in a different time - and with different genes.


One thing is for sure: past life memories always surface for a reason at a particular time -- why do you think you are remembering this life?
 
Oh no yeah I def consider genetics. I've got my mom's nose and face. Have my dad's lips. I know where all my features come from. Personally, I think I'm remembering this life because it was just my time. I have always been interested in music and our high school experiences are quite similar. My theory is that maybe subconscious has resorted to how I dealt with it then. You know, like survival skills but more third nature. I've always been very rejected by large groups of people and have to resort to a few very close friends. They're good friends though. I love them a lot. I'm not as much of a loser as I'm making myself sound lol. I have a lot of friends, it just bothers me when people hate other people for stupid reasons.
 
apop4523 said:
I've always been very rejected by large groups of people and have to resort to a few very close friends...
You're not alone there apop! Personally I think it is better to have a few really close friends than lots of acquaintances who don't really care about you that much and vice versa...


But, why exactly do you think the memories might be coming up now? You talked about remembering a moment when you were sitting with your friends laughing and having fun in the sun one afternoon. Did you think about that moment any more and what the significance of it might have been for you at the time? Have you recently met a new person who gave you a funny feeling?


These things are usually not random and usually have some significance.


Just curious.
 
tanguerra said:
You're not alone there apop! Personally I think it is better to have a few really close friends than lots of acquaintances who don't really care about you that much and vice versa...
But, why exactly do you think the memories might be coming up now? You talked about remembering a moment when you were sitting with your friends laughing and having fun in the sun one afternoon. Did you think about that moment any more and what the significance of it might have been for you at the time? Have you recently met a new person who gave you a funny feeling?


These things are usually not random and usually have some significance.


Just curious.
I just think it was my coming of age I guess. Maybe I'll find out the real meaning sooner or later. I have no idea what a freezer isle would mean lol
 
Since the posts have died down on my thread I just want to say thank you guys for talking to me and giving me advice and making me feel more in my skin. If anyone wants to talk about this more with me, just message or email me. I also have iChat/AIM: antipop4523 and Skype: hellozepp11. It's been great. I'll be posting more on other threads and maybe start another. Thanks so much! headbang.gif
 
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