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Louis the 14th

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Does anyone remember a lifetime during the time of Louis the 14th? Any memories of the time of Marie Antoinette. I am fascinated by the lavish parties they threw during this time and the life that the people led.

I have always gravitated towards this time and cant stop watching movies depicting this era.

I have a feeling but I'm not sure if it was me. I was an older man who lived during this time. I was kind of a dirty old man who was attracted to the younger women of the court (noble women) I wasnt too high ranking (I wasnt the king or anything) but a lesser noble and I had a calling card I would drop around a lot. I wanted to be known as more high ranking than I really was. I was somewhat of an intellectual and associated in circles with other intellectuals.
 
One definite memory I have was brought to light when I visited the palace of Versailles (in this life, I was 17). You have *got* to visit. I think the only time I've ever actually gasped at the sheer opulence of a place was when I first saw the hall of mirrors. But then I saw the palace opera, and I *knew* I had been there before. I may have actually met Marie Antoinette there, in person.


I may have memories of a lifetime during the reign of Louis XIVth, as well, but I doubt I met him in that particular incarnation! :)
 
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I have some as yet very brief vignettes of familiarity with Versailles and from that period...though my sense of detail and emotion are as minimal as the views were. I get the idea that I am to work on other things right now.


Two other aspects of this...somewhere else on this board I believe, was an individual who has memories of being one of the cleaning staff in the Palace and remarked that Marie was exceedingly polite to the staff and everyone....not like the reputation she currently has...and another comment was that the grand staircases were often used as bathrooms! This individual's memory was of having to constantly clean up what guests had "left behind"!


There is another story published (find it in google) of two English schoolteachers visiting the grounds in about 1905 and seeing people in 1780's period dress with whom they had some minor interaction. They thought it was a nice view into the past. It was only after they left a portion of the grounds that they found there were no people in period clothes on display and on further review, the grounds they described traversing no longer existed...a garden and pavilion were completely removed after the revolution! The women described it all very clearly and it wasn't even known to have existed until later when some original landscape plans were found, which these women would not have had access to. Was this a very detailed memory experienced by two separate people? Interesting.
 
The second past life started having memories of was one in which I was a noble in France during this time. I rarely bring it up because I know past lives involving famous people are always met with skepticism. I knew Marie Antoinette, and to a lesser degree King Louis. My father was a powerful member of upper society. I admit that I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth and had a great deal of opportunities handed to me. I was highly educated and politically minded. I attribute my interest in politics today to that life. I also remember being fascinated by the American revolt against England and supported France backing their effort.


I remember attending the queen's parties. She was always a very gracious host. All my life (this life) I've always been very sensitive to how Marie Antoinette has been portrayed historically. (I understand now why) I always knew in my heart that wasn't the real queen. She was a good person and treated people well. I found her to be warm, engaging and had a great sense of humor. In contrast, Louis was very stiff and self-conscious. Their personalities were very different. He was not one much for large social gatherings. They were an odd pair. The enemies of the crown, particularly in the print media, spread vicious lies and rumors about her to turn public opinion against her to advance their own agendas. "Let them eat cake" was the most famous words never said.


In her earlier days she did live a notoriously extravogant lifestyle. That is true, but extravogance was normal at Versailles. That was the culture there. Also, she was crowned queen as a teenager. So you had a teenaged girl who could literally have whatever she wanted. What do you think is going to happen? :laugh: She was born an Austrian princess and married into Versailles. It wasn't like she was raised with any concept of budgeting money. She did outgrow this phase, in particular after she became a mother. She may not have been frugal but she wasn't a bad person.


That life for me ended under the blade of a guillotine after the revolution broke out.
 
Truthseeker, that is fascinating...I'm not asking you to tell us who you were, but how did you find out your name and connections? Was it through memories, dreams, meditation or regression? Are there any particular details which you can share about those there then? I remember a portion of the John Adams series in which his arrival in France was met with a banquet of socialites who wore so much make-up they looked like clowns...and they were the hoi poloi...Adams was so taken aback he could barely talk!
 
Unfortunately I don't remember my name from that life. :( At one time I did remember my family's surname. I looked it up and found out that it was in fact a prominent noble family in France. Unfortunately now I don't remember what the name was. I should have written it down somewhere. :eek: I may have had a political interest but I wasn't a political player. I was just a young man wishing to be heard.


The memories I have came from regression and meditation. At times I've been able to get into a state that I call being in "the zone". This is where I have some very vivid memories. Getting to that level doesn't happen for me everyday. In fact, it hasn't happened in a quite a while. I've tried to get there, but it seems the more I want to, the harder it is. I either get distracted or fall asleep. :rolleyes:


Some other details have just come from a gut feeling that I have. None of it is provable with evidence. I'm not asking anyone to believe me. If you do, great. If not, I understand. I have a hard time believing it myself. But regardless, why would a boy growing up in the United States be more fascinated with the French Revolution than the American Revolution? Why would I, when being taught about the French Revolution in history class, have an internal feeling of "Yeah, I already know all this. I remember." And above all, why would I be sensitive to criticism of a French queen that lived over 200 years ago?


It is true that the costumes and makeup worn to these high society social events teetered on the bizarre. Not really my thing to be honest, but it seemed that the more of a peacock you looked like, it was a show of social status...or at least desired attention. I would liken it to Hollywood today. Hollywood elites today seem to live in a bizarre alternate reality, unrelatable to the rest of us. They live for approval and status among their peers. The rest of us on the us on the outside looking in wonder what goes through those people's minds. That is what French high society was like then. It was an alternate universe detached from reality, but they looked at people on the outside like they just didn't get it. Obviously that disconnect came to a head when the revolution broke out.
 
I cant help but be fascinated by this era. Halloween is coming and I was in charge of planning and coming up with themes for various parties. I always choose Louis 14th theme but it never ends up getting implemented.


Lately I have been more than ever fascinated by this era but when I saw something on the History channel about this time period I was seriuosly turned off. I saw people on this documentary during this time defecating on grand staircases, relieving themselves in buckets and the waste material being tossed outside windows (thats why women during this time period carried those umbrellas) and hitting people who were strolling.


For some reason whne I think of this era I look thru rose colored glass and never think of the lack of personal hygeine. I kind of glamorize this in my mind and i have no idea why.
 
I have no memories of this era, but I'm into early music revival and I adore the music of Louis XIV's court. It feels comfortable, like a "welcome home."


Perhaps these historically conscious recordings of the music of Versailles will trigger some nice memories for those in this thread:


The Sun King imported Italian musicians into his court, notably Jean-Baptiste Lully (Giovanni Battista Lulli), who created a "French" style of opera that was widely copied. Lully's style employed lilting, "swung" rhythms that stressed glory and pomp:

 
First of all, I'd like to thank you all for sharing your memories of this period. I'd like to make an observation, though. The husband of Marie Antoinette was Louis XVI (16th) not XIV (14th). Louis XVI, le Roi-Soleil, lived and ruled in the 17th century, dying in 1715, after which he was succeeded by Louis XV, who at that time was only 5 years old. Louis XV died in 1774. He was succeeded by Louis XVI who married Marie Antoinette. I'm mentioning this because of the big difference between the styles of these periods. For example, in the era of Louis XIV male wigs were considerably long and curly, while this was not the case in the court of Louis XVI.
 
I've always been fascinated by the French Revolution and the era/times of Marie-Antoinette and Louis XVI. Particularly in the light of mother and father. I don't want to claim notoriety or famous past-life recall but I do fell they were/and see them as my parents. (I've posted a thread in "Past Life Memories" for this reason)


Versailles has always attracted me, particularly the park and the petit trianon. I mean don't get me wrong, the Chateau de Versailles is spellboundingly-beautiful in every word. I'd love to go there someday. It would be interesting to see how I react to being there again. But most of all I adore the petit trianon. I adore the temple of love with the sculpture of Eros and I also love, beyond description the Queen's Hameau. When I see photographs/paintings/engravings of either of these structures I smile and feel happy. It is ironic considering in this life I'm so attracted to Louis XVI furnishings and especially French Renaissance architecture and interiors.


The Temple, where the Royal Family were imprisoned gives me chills. I remember the first time I saw an engraving of the Temple, I cried and a lot of emotions came up. This was a while ago, and it still gives me the creeps. Like things are crawling over my body, etc.


The spinning-top, and a carriage that belonged to the surviving son of Marie-Antoinette and Louis XVI (Louis Charles/Louis XVII) have always and deeply resonated with me. The spinning-top especially.


For many years I attested to having been at a grand reception in my current life now where the walls were white and gold and the draperies and furnishings were blue, or covered with blue fabric. I attested to this that it was at a birthday celebration or a really happy event. Everyone I told about this told me it never happened. I must have been dreaming. But I held firm to it. One day I was looking through photographs of the interiors of Versailles and my heart skipped a beat when I saw the family dining-room of the Royal Family at Versailles. The same blue furnishings, the same blue draperies. The white and gold walls. I was so taken-a-back by the discovery that I just smiled and tears filled my eyes. I found the room of my memory! I was so happy to find it.


I can read French somewhat well. When I say read, it comes naturally but there's a point where I become so frustrated and want to cry because I know the language and I know what I'm hearing and I know how to speak it. But for the life of me, it is so difficult. I think because of what happened to me, I have challenges with the language and writing and reading in French.
 
Hi romanovy13


Welcome to the forum.


Golly. Well, sounds like a past life memory to me.


When did this first start happening? How old were you?
 
This may seem weird but I believe I was Louis the 14th in one of my past lives. Not only do I look identical to him (from the likeness of his paintings), I was born with a star shaped birthmark in the center of my back which looked similar to his sun shaped symbol without the face in the middle. Creepy!!
 
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