How to find out about your past lives

Discussion in 'Reincarnation Questions' started by Deborah, Apr 23, 2005.

  1. Lilmsmaggie

    Lilmsmaggie New Member

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    I decided to cut to the chase and consult with a professional.


    I got lucky. I located an individual who was a past president of IARRT. I've only had one session so far and one scheduled for this week. She's about a 2 hr. drive from where I live.


    I'm looking forward to a journey of discovery.
     
  2. Goldenage

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    help with regression..


    It is what i did, sought help from a professional. I could not do it by myself- I had the question I wanted to ask and I really wanted an answer but I just could not do it by myself. There was a very significant reason for this "inability" and it concerned the very nature of that life in itself. It was so so bad that I simply could not face what I had done there. Was still doing really (somewhere deep inside my greater-self). It covered the reason that I had incarnated into this life, it accounted for exactly the driver that threw me head-first into environmental activism, got me fired from a university teaching position (destabilizing the community with public demonstrations against the precious ruling-elite's pulp mills, power supply installations etc and so forth). The answer was a real shocker 4 me - I had hidden away what I had done in that life and why and my current life was (to that point) driven by leak-through feelings to try to compensate for that really major error of commission. Once I understood what I had done and had been forced to take direct responsibility for it in light of the insight that incredibly strong driver (in this life) simply dissolved, faded away as an obligate impulse completely.........
     
  3. Tinkerman

    Tinkerman Administrator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Lilmsmaggie...GREAT! That is exactly what I did. In my search for a credible counselor/ regression therapist, I found a doctor, the director of research for the IARRT, was within a days drive. It was so worth the time and it most certainly was a journey... epic, for me. I wish you good fortune with yours and hope to hear how it went.


    Tinkerman
     
  4. crystal_44

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    Hmmm...but maybe they ARE alive and on this planet? Hehe, sorry I couldn't resist. ;)


    This forum is a very safe, loving, and welcoming place. I have had bad experience with religious fanatics, cynics, and people who were just plain close-minded. It has made me guarded and wary, but this forum is the one place I can freely discuss this with others going through the same thing.


    I am sorry that you have had the same experience, but you have come to the right place for answers.


    Welcome, and I hope that you find the comfort that I have found here.
     
  5. Tinkerman

    Tinkerman Administrator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Good morning Arrant, and welcome!


    I must admit I was a little taken back by your initial post. It seemed pretty judgmental on America, California, authors and most especially Deborah. Having spent a great deal of time in Europe (married there), I am familiar with some of these prejudices. And I am always amazed at how these preconceived ideas are asserted as fact. No doubt they are the result of the world media and the interpretation we each make form it. Having lived on both sides of the "big pond" it is so incredibly apparent to me... and utterly sad.


    Arrant, your initial post was incorrect. This sight was founded and paid for over fourteen years ago by the Bowman's. Yes, she is an author, but more important, a researcher and counselor in the field of past life regression. She specializes in the area of children. This web site was founded by them in order to utilize the best technology (internet) for the gathering and dissemination of information in regard to children's past life studies. Steve and Carol Bowman were very fortunate to find Deborah, a professor of art (not an author!), who so deeply believed in their work that she volunteered to help build the Past Life Forum.


    Under her supervision this forum has grown to become a resource for study on the topic. We have amassed a large collection of reference materials... books, movies, personal accounts... and are still building. No one is here for profit. As you may notice the Administrative Staff is VERY international... there are two Americans (Deb and myself), a Canadian (Aili), and three Europeans (Sunniva, Eevee, & ChrisR). Our Moderators are also quite diversified, and I must say, some of the most intellectually competent and wonderful people I've ever seen on the internet.


    Cynicism has its place (I suppose: angel). In this case I suppose it is an opportunity for self-review on our part. But also a chance to clarify misconceptions on yours. We welcome you here... warmly and completely. I look forward to more words from you. And assure you that the motive for our work here is genuine, non-cynical and motivated by a deep, deep passion to understand reincarnation. AND as the thread is entitled (And my administrative way of redirecting the thread back on target:rolleyes:) "How to find out about your past lives"...


    I wish you the best.


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  6. Arrant

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    I must apologise to all of you, and particularly Deborah, if I have caused even the slightest offence. I just see so much in the world that is false, proclaiming to be true, that sometimes it's hard to determine one from the other, and it seems that, in this case, I made a snap misjudgement. Please forgive me.


    May I also just take this opportunity to state, for the record, that I am not in the least anti-American (or anti Californian), and most especially not anti-author! I was married to a native Californian for many years, have visited the U.S. many times, and have also worked for a large American company here in the UK. I can see, however, why my first post might have suggested otherwise. To be honest, I think, like most Euopeans, I am more anti-American government, specifically its foriegn policy, and the apparent belief that America has a mandate from God (as part of some uniquely American Judeo-Christian tradition) to police the world. But American people I actually like very much!


    A lot of cherished perceptions ARE often stated as fact, you are quite right. Only the other day I came across a long essay on the internet from an American rabbi contrasting the supposed, divinely inspired morality of America with the decadence of the supposed secular Europe!


    But anyway, I am going off topic, so will try to keep to subject in future posts. Thank you all for the warm welcome, and once again my sincere apologies for getting off on the wrong foot.


    Adam.
     
  7. Nightrain

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    So...Arrant -- what is your opinion about how one should best go about learning about their past lives. What brings you to this subject? Do you meditate? Have you had any specific interest in historic periods?
     
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    Thank you, Nightrain.


    To answer your questions in turn -


    I have absolutely no idea how best to go about learning about one's past lives. Indeed, that lack of knowledge is one of the reasons I've joined this forum. I'm hoping some of you might be able to give me some pointers.


    As for meditation, I have tried but failed, like, I suspect, a great many people trying it for the first time. I simply cannot clear my mind of all the daily stuff that seems to clutter my thinking. I can't even sleep properly at night due to my inability to "switch off"! I will, however, persevere in attempting to do so...


    Regarding my interest in a specific historic period, a resounding YES! Ever since I was a small boy (and I'm now 48), I've had an abiding fascination with aircraft, most especially from the WW2 period. So deep is this facination that it soon transcended the usual boyhood pre-occupation with building model aeroplanes, etc, and evolved into something far more. When i was 19, I learned to fly, getting my pilot's licence at 20 and, despite there being no family involvement with flying or aviation whatsoever, my instructors all declared me a "natural", and I've always felt quite at home and confortable in the air. Moreover, I've written numerous published magazine articles on aircraft and pilots of WW2. I could go on and on with more examples of how my interest has manifested itself, but I don't want to bore you all and, anyway, hopefully you get the idea..


    Is this fascination a lingering attachment to a previous life lived in WW2. Or something that simply developed in this lifetime? I really don't know. However, many years ago I had a sitting with a medium of some repute who, part way through, with very little prompting (I simply told him I had an interest in American history and an interest in aeroplanes), told me I had been shot down in an American fighter in WW2. His exact words were: "you didn't go down in flames; you were shot down and were dead before you hit the ground." Now, I've no way of knowing if there is any truth in that, and I've never been plauged by nightmares of such a violent death, and of course the medium may not have been as good, or have displayed as much integrity, as his reputation suggested. But it IS food for thought.


    What do you think?


    Adam.
     
  9. Nightrain

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    I can see that you've already cleared one major hurdle in the process of discovering your past lives, and that is having an inkling of what you might have been. The next step would likely be to convince yourself that such a thing is possible. This can be a major hurdle for folks like you or I. Being a somewhat skeptical (rational) sort of fellow, myself, I would presume that this step would leave me open to any number of silly fantasies. However, I have found that, once we eliminate the element of ego and material attachment, whatever fantasies we entertain seem to point in the right possible directions. After all, one might ask, why would you have chosen to investigate WWII aircraft instead of WWI submarines?


    So, once we have established a possible theory, we have to test it, right? As I mentioned, the next step is to convince yourself that Reincarnation is possible. So, how do we go about doing this? We read as much as possible by reputable dedicated researchers like Dr. Ian Stevenson who documented well over a thousand cases around the world. But, we don't stop there. We also have to test the wider premise that the material body and brain are not the source of all that we sense. In other words, we have to accept that there is something beyond the material world that allows our essence to free itself of the body and move on as an intact being. For this purpose I would recommend any literature by Drs. Dean Radin, Daryl Bem, Charles Tart, Russell Targ, Pim van Lommel and Gary Schwartz, which show tremendous support for the existence of Telepathy, Remote Viewing, Precognition, and Post-mortem Consciousness. Once it becomes evident that such phenomenon are real, then Reincarnation is no longer such a stretch of the imagination, and our ability to accept the next step in our search becomes possible.


    The next step? Regression Therapy by a reputable trained practitioner who specializes in Past Life Regression. Hopefully, other members can help you in locating such a professional in your area; or, you can follow this link for more information.


    As for meditation, some folks find it easy, and some even have spontaneous memories from dreams and even during waking hours. However, I, like you, am not so fortunate; which is why I recommend the above steps. Good luck, and keep asking questions.
     
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    Regarding Nightrain's suggestions for specific past life research I would also add that an akashic reading, or a viewing of your "book of life", can provide alot of information as to your soul's past lives and purpose in this one. I find it especially valuable in understanding my soul level relationships with others that I know while incarnate.
     
  11. Arrant

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    How does one go about obtaining an akashic reading?
     
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  14. Tinkerman

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    Some thoughts on this journey


    Very interesting Adam... thank you for sharing. I concur with Nightrain on what it means and the steps you could take. I've always professed that the journey into "the otherside"... reincarnation and spirituality is a very, very personal one. It involves you, as an individual, searching all avenues that cross your path. As we travel time I believe we are given markers, synchronous events, people and thoughts. These are places where you may delve deeper into the heart of your questions. It seems to me the average human being is so caught up in his or her life that they fail to see these guide-rocks. A person must slow down, so to speak, to notice them and have faith that they mean something more than happenstance. For me that has been meditation practice. For other it is a concentration in the phenomena that Nightrain mentioned. As he said you are doing the right thing by at least recognizing the probability.


    I am not a defined religious person... I'm a weird hybred: angel. I suppose my Christian roots, Buddhist tendencies, and my earth based mentality make for a strange hybrid. But I've made that journey on my own and must say I've never been more certain or comfortable on my path! It is wonderful and sincerely enriching. But I cannot impart it on you. That's just what all the fundamentalists of the world are trying to do to each other... and as I say over and over "look how they are screwing it up." People who speak with such venomous "truth" are poison. So I will tell you: explore, research, read, listen (to the world, to your self, in the quiet of your mind) and somewhere in it all, bits of truth will come to you. You mentioned the perseverance above...YES! persevere in your search. It reminds me of a principle in Buddhist teachings called the Five Spiritual Faculties

    In Christianity we simply say "knock and the door shall be opened." Whatever your path open your mind and heart... it is a beautiful walk.


    Thanks for joining us


    Happy trails!


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  15. Arrant

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    Tinkerman, Kristopher, Nightrain, etc


    Many thanks for your words of wisdom. Its so encouraging to know there are others like me out there...


    I've been looking at some of the other posts on past life memories, and some of them are quite remarkable. I wish I had some of my own to share, but I don't - else I would immediately post under the relevant thread! However, there are a couple of things I can share - call some of it prescient wisdom if you like - and I'll be posting these on the appropriate threads as time goes on, if anyone is interested.


    Adam.
     
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    Same here. Soul Survivor is a very moving story. Speaking of which, I don't know much about this little boy except what's in this brief expose but from reading about this little boy's amazing gifts, I'm not sure precocious or even prodigy begins to explain his abilities -- go ahead, have a read:


    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/24/60minutes/main657713.shtml
     
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    Having wondered about this, myself, I've come to the conclusion that it is important to pursue finding out whatever we can about our Past Lives. Like Usetawaz, I also believe that, if it is not in our best interest to find some information, we will be prevented from doing so. If, for example, we are the kind of person who finds it difficult to function under the onus of past mistakes, then it is to our advantage to be left without memory of such things during the next life. If we learn to accept ourselves, mistakes and all, then we may find more memories become available. If, for another example, we tend to relax and rest upon our laurels after a great accomplishment, then it may again be to our advantage to not remember such things, so that we may move on through other objectives in this life.
     
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    Past (human) lives on THIS planet?


    Why does the assumption that we have had prior lives on THIS particular planet in the form of a human structure pervade the discussion. The spark of life is not temporary. It was not created - it is eternal. It may only flower into a cognizant condition once every trillion years or so. To presume prior human cognizance is rather presumptive.
     
  20. Nightrain

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    Hi ThOR! Having read your web page, I can say that I understand your point and agree wholeheartedly that our human "seed" certainly does not constitute the whole of consciousness throughout the universe. But, to answer your question (however rhetorical it seems), I would only ask how far discussions might progress without having some foundation in the human experience? Worse yet, would you be interested in reading possibly deluded claims that someone used to be a 20 legged jelly monster from the planet xipsos?


    Having been a skeptic, myself, whose entry point into Reincarnation happened to be Ian Stevenson and Carol Bowman; I relate to the needs of new members who are coming from the generalized culture of Renaissance Science and a Religious culture that believes in only one life per customer. It is a seriously big leap for them to go from this background to Quantum Cosmology; and going there can often include swimming through a bilge tank full of strange and unfounded concepts that would possibly cause you to lose interest. I know that I have already gagged at some of the science fiction that exists on most other Forums.


    So, for my part, I would love to swap theories with you; but I would continue to hope that discussions on this Forum will continue to be human-focused for the time being -- only because those are the stories that have the greater veridical potential.
     
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    Falling Into Truth


    I don't know very much about methodology and having grown up in a pseudo Christian environment, I was often told that it is appointed once for man to die and then the judgement. After an experience that I was not even pursuing, I was able to grasp that we are reincarnated as men and women but the same spirit goes into the new body. So for the particular man or woman it is appointed that death will come eventually to that shell. Again it is appointed for that carnate body to die once (mostly) and then again the next time around unless we have reached Actualization.


    I was in college and practicing meditation and auto writing the evening before my first day of the 2nd semester. I found myself projecting further out or deeper than ever and I had a pencil in my left hand though I am right-handed. I had a theory that perhaps something I had written several times might just be muscle memory. I wrote an entire page. When I came to upper consciousness I saw that I had written an entire page. Half of it was a fairly well done poem. and went on to say "I am you." "Who?" "You" "Sailing songs through time, folding thoughts in rhyme, don't start." It was signed very legibly, John Dryden. The next day I had my first world literature class. After introductions the professor gave us four pages typed as textbooks were late arriving at the bookstore. She then said, "We are going to begin by discussing the English Poet Laureates. The first Poet we'll look at is John Dryden who was the Poet Laureate from fifteen . . . I felt so out of my element and I had not ever heard of this man I am sure. I stood up and left the class, shaking and wandering back toward my dorm. I felt it was like a UFO story and didn't say anything for two months until I told my dad one night during spring break as we were imbibing. He was so down to earth and just said "Why don't you look him up, get some of his works?" That was before PC's and the encyclopedia said that he had been born August 9th. My birthday as well.


    That he was sometimes called the Poet Squab for his short bulky build. I am five foot eight and was wrestling team captain. His picture resembled mine. I read some of his poems, and found so many similarities to ones I had written. I talked to a Pastor and he listened and said "Leave it alone, the devil can come to us through many means and mediums."I have pretty much left it alone, but it tugged at me through the years. I have only given you the rather glaring similarities. There was so much more. Neither I nor my father who was well read had heard of John Dryden I am 99.9% sure. Should one pursue? How does one pursue? Would it matter if it were true? Are there any benefits in knowing? This is my first post and I may not even be in the right area. Foxy Houligan
     
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    Hi Foxy, and welcome to the Forum!


    Your question resonates well with this section, because how we find out about your past lives has much to do with what we do with the information once we achieve it—IF we manage to achieve it fully. I say this because few of us—if any—ever achieve complete recall of our present lives, let alone previous lives. And, whatever we do achieve is often through our own filters which often leave us partially blind to our real selves. Thus, I believe we are bound to live other lives in the shoes and slippers of many different kinds of people without the benefit or handicap of knowing who we were in a previous life.


    So, as your question suggests, what do we do with the knowledge we have? There may be good reasons that some of us have been allowed certain knowledge, whether such knowledge is psychic or objective memory. But, I also believe that some of those reasons could have a great deal to do with learning how to check our ego at the door while expanding upon the deeper meaning of our past-life knowledge.


    While it may be quite true that you were John Dryden in a past life, does it mean that your poetry will be appreciated as it was during the Seventeenth and Eighteenth Centuries? Or, does it rather mean that you are predisposed, now, to expand that same depth of soul as who you are presently? Whatever the case, we are not able to regain any of the fame all of us once enjoyed in some previous life. However, we can all find that fine quality that still exists within us, even without benefit of discovering our past lives.


    So the question becomes rhetorical, What can we learn from past lives, that we don't already know in the depths of our soul?
     
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    Arrant's posts make me so glad that when I went searching for a site to learn from I chose to come here because of the books. I can only imagine how much harder the beginning of my journey would have been had I chosen to land elsewhere.


    I, too, can attest that no one here is making money, we are all here to share the information that we have and to learn from each other.


    There is, however, a wealth of knowledge that is shared here that is worth far more than any money ... at least to me. :thumbsup:
     
  24. Deborah

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    Hi Arrant,


    I am sorry I missed your posts in this thread last year. At that time I was recently married, diagnosed with an illness which I struggle with daily and was recovering from surgery. :rolleyes: otherwise I am a healthy happy person. I still teach full time with overtime. 176 students in all. Soooooo I miss things here from time to time.


    Nightrain, Tinkerman and Chris - all spoke eloquently on my behalf. Thank you for representing the heart of this place. #G^H


    The forum would not be here without forum staff who are all volunteers. None of us make money - but we have made many friends and I personally have learned many lessons.


    So, thank you for your sincere apology and your willingness to explain your POV. ;) And welcome.
     
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    Would it matter if it were true?


    Hi Foxy Houligan, interesting post. Re your word “Actualization”, yes, consider that you, your true identity, your True Self is/are asleep, dreaming……. dreaming. In one of those dreams you are John Dryden, in another you are Foxy Houligan but neither of these identities are the real You. Granted the lives of each appear as realities but the Real You is the dreamer…..What if the real you, the sleeper, was to suddenly “wake up”? In that case the real identity that you are would see at once that that the dreamed identities were in some sense “fictions”, fictions of such detail that if you so desired you could plunge right into them and the details thereof would seem, for an instant, to be real again - that is until you once again managed to “force yourself awake”. So what name can we give to this “awakened state”? - How about “Actualised”. Would that fit? Yes I believe it would fit you to a “T”


    The whole and only purpose of life (in the dream state) is to provide you with the opportunity to “wake up”. That is all! So in answer to your questions, in order. 1) How does one pursue? Simple: you have arrived at this “insight” concerning Dryden because you have been here before, as John you began to realize that you were dreaming but did not quite wake up. But you did think far enough ahead to set yourself a “marker” that you would recognize in a future life (right now). So pursue this by digging out all of Dryden’s poems find out all you can about the man and his life, everything you can…..


    2) Would it matter if it were true? This is the next step, yes. What if it were true indeed and you are the only one that can answer that question - if it is true you will/can know it through meditation


    3) Are there any benefits in knowing? The benefit is the possibility of the certainty you will obtain that you, the dreamer, are a consciousness that spans both time and space. Once you have that then deeply ask yourself “who am I that thus span time and space?” Concentrate on the answer, let it arise from deep within you - as it surfaces you will remember who you really are - in Actuality - Actualization is direct comprehension of the transcendent Being from which (whom) all things arise and to whom all things return. It is confirmation that you are that One. It is the beginning of your true journey into the profound and beyond.
     
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    I would be fascinated personally and think it would be instructive for us all if you feel able to share with us some more details on this - ie what you did in that past life and how it "leaked through" into this one. Indeed - it would be good to hear of anyone who has found they are spending time in this life "putting right" things they did in a past life that they are unhappy about.
     
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    Y did I come here? Y am I doing this?


    Oh dear Cariad,


    You have asked a big question but briefly:


    1) what you did in that “past life: ”When I concentrated on it (the reason I had become a serious Environmental Activist, in the late 60s and got myself kicked out of a university teaching job [Assistant Professor, Ecology]) I found myself walking on a crunchy path which I knew by the feeling underfoot to be crushed white marble. I was possessed of a very determined frame of mind, wearing sandals, a leather skirt, embossed helmet, short sword under my right hand and slung on a belt with a heavily decorated buckle. You get the picture - a swords and sandals scenario. Behind me legions, to each side cowering women and children. The battle already having been won before we could approach the undefended city filled with towering stone statues. The immediate purpose to put everyone without exception to the sword and to burn that city. The reason? Simply to pacify the territory behind our lines before we again moved forward. I alone conceived the plan and I oversaw its execution. You see? It was in no way a necessary action merely one of convenience, nobody told me that I had to do it for I took direction from no-one, answered to no-one. A very bad act. For which I would have to pay life after life till this very life from which I now appear to speak.


    2)how it "leaked through" into this one: It leaked through into this life in a curious manner - the Santa Barbara oil spill flowed onto the shore-line and killed most of the sea mussels that I had been working with in studying for my degree in ecology. I was outraged! Such a thing should not be “allowed” to happen so I took a major role in building an environmental action group active throughout the administrative jurisdiction in which I then lived, 10,000 members at $10 each. We tackled the major industrial polluters, engaged them ideologically where they lived, even displaced the incumbent government on the issue. But really it was a battle that could not possibly be won (at that stage). Although I knew full well what was coming I did not desist, got kicked out of the University for saying what should and should not be done on the social scene. My wife left me for throwing away a sinecure of a job and my daughter never really forgave me even up to this day although the environmental group, together with offshoots still lives. But me? I take no further part………


    Imagine that, worrying about a bunch of shellfish on the one hand and slaughtering innocent woman and children on the other. When I came to see this clearly it all but shattered my ego-self, almost but not quite. I had yet to revisit another and entirely different scenario, time, place from within a further “life” before I could break out of that ego-ages-old shell that had been cycling into and out of the dream of life for so many times (iterations) that I could not even begin to count them. Although I could “see” them all clearly……or at least “sense their presence. Unreal, all of them….


    The break-out-question I mention in my comment above addressed to Foxy Houligan
     
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    Thank you for that explanation.


    It's sorta feeling to me like you maybe feel the environment of other living beings (the mussels in this case) are less "important" than the people you killed in that previous life???


    My thoughts would tend to be around all living beings being important (and, of course, the sea there would contain many other living beings besides the mussels) and it would be an acceptable "recompense" helping one "form of life" in this life to make up for having killed another "form of life" in a previous life.


    Trust I'm making sense here.....


    I was surprised to read another book (non reincarnation-related) in which the author talks about how most of (Western) Society still goes by the idea that humans are the predominant/most important form of life on this planet and that its the vast majority of people who still believe Humans are entitled to use (and abuse) everything else on this planet for the purposes of just one species (ie ourselves). I guess this explains why I find it difficult to understand so many people apparently placing little or no value on the other species we share the planet with. Also explains why so many people regard it as a "given" that the Human species "should" continue and take it as read that we must. To me - the Earth would be a sight better off without the particular species that is us and I can't see why we rate ourselves more highly (particularly given we share the planet with species like dolphins, whales, etc - ones that are obviously intelligent too - more so than us in fact, as I've seen no evidence of them waging wars against each other like we do).


    So - I would say that what you did regarding trying to help other forms of Life was very valid and worthwhile and helped "repay a lot of (karmic) debt". That may not be any reassurance to you - as I am guessing you wish to repay the debt to our own species (ie the human one)...


    I know what it's like personally to lose a job because of having followed ones principles and how much "upset" that can cause someone when it happens to them. I don't wish to go into the details of what I did that caused me to be unfairly sacked from the job concerned - but I would do it again - simply because I am quite sure I was right to do so and they were absolutely wrong to sack me for it. I won't give out the details here - because I don't hesitate to tell people In The Real World about it - to expose what happened and to warn people that employers are still currently doing things like this. I try to be philosophical about that unfair dismissal and console myself with thinking "At least it's clear evidence that I must be "older" than at least some of the people on the planet - I wouldnt have sacked me in those circumstances iyswim". So - I tell myself "Think positive about it - at least it means I've probably gone beyond kindergarten stage over my Lives as a whole - and they've just proved some other people (ie themselves) haven't".
     
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    I am just saying in the prior life I killed many people but the counteraction was in his life I changed course because the oil killed the mussels I am not saying it is better to kill this or that. It is better not to kill anything but then does this include lettuce as well? Yes, in a generic sense I suppose but committing suicide by not eating is not the answer either. There are choices to be made at every turn so one has to learn how to proceed with the least impact on living systems including other people. Besides which all of these things of which I mention happened a long long time ago but then time is not a factor at all - its always a matter of imposing the least impact because one is solely accountable according to the balance one strikes with one's self
     
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    Indeed - it is about striking a balance.


    One has to, I feel, work out how to "do the least evil" possible - whilst recognising that it's totally impossible to avoid all "wrongdoing". Personally I'm vegetarian, anti-war and have (ahem...) quite a lengthy list (compared to most people) of jobs I simply wouldn't do because they would go against my conscience. So - one does what one can. I do what I can - whilst recognising that one is human/I am human and am well aware of own "personal failings" (errr...like buying more consumer "goodies" than I strictly speaking need for instance - a VERY common thing in our Western societies).


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    Anyways - this thread is one of the ones that is certainly getting me thinking. Since coming to this thread (in combination with the book I'm currently reading) I've realised a couple of bits about previous lives - ie I've obviously had both the Plague and smallpox at some point (hardly surprising - since millions of people have had one or both of them at some point in the last few hundred years). The evidence is there in a couple of things in my present body - so thats been quite an interesting thought for me - and I suspect I can work out who has had T.B. in a previous life or rickets - as there are some "indications" in their present day bodies that seem consistent with a bit of "carry over" to me...
     

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