Karmic Lessons

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  1. tommcfearsom

    tommcfearsom Senior Registered

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    Remembering The Light


    Hello Folks, Tanguerra


    Have you ever remembered or experienced The Light. If so what is your story? How has it effected your sense of Karmic Lessons??


    Yours Truly


    John R.
     
  2. adityarajkapoor

    adityarajkapoor Kalwa

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    Wow


    Wow! This thread is so deep and illuminating...to read that so many ppl are involved in the understanding of the Law of Karma. If this philosophical thread reaches the outer world(where we all live!) I am sure its humbling effect will cure a lot of maladies. Anyways..i have been reading a lot of Hindu-Guru-books on this and have understood that the soul is but a carrier of our debit/credit and transfers it to the next level as per the balance of payment! Since we believe that God is everywhere and the soul is made from the same sauce that God is...,therefore all that moves up and down the elevator shaft are the books of account!! when the accounts are over. No book. I believe in this..Its my personal aspiration to evolve in the market place rather than a retreat for I believe that evolving creates the retreat. Happy Sunday!
     
  3. tanguerra

    tanguerra Moderator Emeritus

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    Hello adityarajkapoor and welcome to the forum.


    I hope you will enjoy it and find many ideas to think about to assist you in your study. There are many paths and it depends what you are 'up to' as to the best way of going about things. Retreat from the world is one way - whether in a monastery or as a recluse. Some people may require one or more lifetimes of quiet contemplation and solitude to do whatever integration they are trying to achieve.


    You can also be making your way in the real world while going about your 'higher' purpose, whatever it may be. The key is mindfulness - being aware of what you are doing - outside of the normal humdrum, hurly burly of life. For instance, there is nothing wrong with simply running a household or a business, making children or money, as long as you remain mindful that that is not all there is to life.
     
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    tommcfearsom Senior Registered

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    Stories Of Oneness


    Hello Tanguerra


    Can you tell me if or how the oneness effected your thoughts on Karmic Lessons ?


    Yours Truly


    John R.
     
  5. tanguerra

    tanguerra Moderator Emeritus

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    I say again, it's hard to say, because I was so young, so I don't know how things may have been different if things had been otherwise, if you get my drift.


    I have always been very 'aware' as long as I can remember - largely because of these sorts of experiences, not to mention the memories, so it is hard to compare it with anything, unless I look at previous lives when I was much less aware. I probably think about this sort of 'stuff' more than I did in most other incarnations (with a couple of notable exceptions).


    I have no trouble understanding the Buddhist concept of 'emptiness'. I have seen behind the veil and know that there is a lot more going on than there appears to be and it is all just as 'real' as any other experience. I see the allegorical meanings behind even commonplace daily events. I understand that this is only one level of existence out of many. This life, with its T-shirts and rubbish bins, is certainly not all there is, although what we do and how we do it has impacts on other levels of existence.


    Most of all, I am not really afraid of anything, least of all 'God' (however you conceive her).
     
  6. Charles Stuart

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    Hi John,


    Deborah would be a good one for some feedback on "The Light". Its omnipresence can be found, apparently, very much so in the Spiritual Realms, where there is the mentioning of an "endless light that has no sun". Personally, I believe this "Omnipresent Light from which ALL things originate and is conscious in Itself" is "God" (and that is how I conceive Her :D ).


    Hi adityarajkapoor,


    Welcome to the forum. :thumbsup:

    Precisely. It is my understanding that this is why we are often referred to as being "God Particles". We were created "in God's image", but not in the physical sense. We were created in His image as "Conscious Beings"... ;)


    "We are Light. We are IN the Light. But we are not The Light Itself."
     
  7. adityarajkapoor

    adityarajkapoor Kalwa

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    The Past?


    Thanks all...(for the welcome)...reading here is better than then the daily! i often wonder if there is a solution other than total surrender to the higher and to simultaneously use your free-will to do righteousness. Everything seems a point-of-view..karmically and is a cliffhanger most times. In this life if i iterate to you all what all i have gone through, I am sure i will be a model-study for my past life. (And what not to do) However. I NEVER get a past life link. Never. Either its been shut out puposely(since I am a spriritual initiate and follow a Guru..who is my moderator as u might say), or maybe its too bright for me to see. Or what? I dont know. I have sufferred at the hands of every relation that I can think of. Most every friend that I can think of. Most every business assoc. The list goes on. Ofcourse now, in my current state of 'mindfullness', as Tan puts it i see this as a game that I know how to stop. For the first time I do know how to put an end to this continuous recycling of the same crap, life and life over again. But still, I am curious about what happened earlier. Maybe I dont have the courage to get there, I dont really know. Also i am not so keen as of right right now to learn of the past as I am in a career path thats taking all my nerve. But still, when I am quiet, like now, I wonder...Maybe some of you know whats happening....
     
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    tanguerra Moderator Emeritus

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    Nope, that's pretty much it. :)


    While you go about your business, doing what you do with mindfulness, always trying to do the highest action and think the highest thought (not always succeeding, because you are human and therefore fallible and life is a complicated and messy business sometimes) the meaning will have a way of coming to you and things will have a way for working out for the best. Other people will behave badly, mishaps will be experienced. This is life. The trick is to pay them as little heed as possible while you get on with what you are trying to achieve.


    It is important, if you can manage it, to have at least one quiet moment in your day just to sit and think about 'things' instead of rushing about in the hectic business of life getting distracted by all the distractions, illusions, upsets and worries which are an inevitable part of life.


    As to finding out about past lives, you are in the right place! Have you taken a look in here


    There are many tips, tricks, experiences and so on to share with others who have gone before you. Good luck with your explorations.
     
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    Hi adityarajkapoor,

    I can relate to that VERY well... :rolleyes: To the point where last weekend I was seriously thinking of isolating myself a bit more. It seems the more people one gets involved with, the more "karmic load" we bring onto ourselves. It is obvious, however, at least in my case (and I am quite certain it must be in yours and that of others), that the problem lies in me. In the way I have postured myself in relation to others. Just one more of the many lessons to be learned in this lifetime... :thumbsup:
     
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    Yes, I am in agreement. I personally do not believe that God (however you conceive her) cares, in the nicest possible way, what we get up to. I don't think God is a micro manager. The concept of God as some kind of cosmic Santa, keeping a big ledger of who has been naughty and who has been nice, punishing the wicked and rewarding the 'good' individually and in detail is a popular Christian concept, but I just don't buy it, personally.


    We are human and therefore fallible. Difficulties are always put in our way and it is up to us how we learn to negotiate them. This is called life. This is how we evolve. Sometimes we make mistakes and choose poorly. The results of that are the fruits of our labours. 'Karma' is simply a word for the process of negotiating life on this plane in my view. It is up to the individual how they choose to do that. It is neither good nor bad. It just is. Luckily we have many, many lives in which to learn and improve ourselves, our actions and our thoughts. But, there is no compulsion. If we choose to spend one lifetime after another being a murderer, lazy, cruel, greedy, selfish, unkind, whatever - hey - there are no rules as far as I'm concerned. If we choose to try to live life with love, gentleness, generosity and service to others. Great. We will no doubt have a much more pleasant time as a result of that, at the same time as making life more pleasant for others.


    Why would an all powerful deity set up a system where we have free will and faults, desires, urges and so forth, then punish people for not following some set of cosmically defined 'rules'? It makes no sense. This is my view. Others will have different opinions, naturally.

    Wasting time and energy on self-pity "poor me, why does all this bad stuff keep happening to me" or blaming God or the universe or fate or whatever for our 'bad luck' is fairly natural, but achieves nothing.


    People will behave badly from time to time. This is life. They probably have their reasons, whether misguided or not. We have no control over that. Most people are doing their best, such as it is. Whether we attract these 'bad' people into our lives or not is moot. We could get into an esoteric discussion about how everything is an illusion and we all create our own realities and so on and so forth. However, either way, it is always within our power to react towards the mistreatment of others with compassion and understanding or just give them a wide berth depending on our own assessment of our abilities at any given time.


    HH The Dalai Lama, a very accomplished scholar of Mahayana Buddhism, is always eloquent on the subject of compassion:

     

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