The problem with physical resemblance used as evidence for past lives.

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  1. The Traveler

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    so it can show and emerge into different age of life? well, yes is a possibility, why not. each one have is personal path so also the reconstruction of the past of the soul can take different roads.
    mmm, about me, some strange memories come also by childhood, but they was so strange that i guess if i lived before, i lived into other dimensions or universe, there are things so weird that really not match with that reality.
    now i am trying to focus better that, but is not easy.
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    Ciao, ragazzo:

    Not necessarily.

    You are almost sure the same person that you were when you were a child.

    LIFE has taught you to be, as you say, cynical and talkative.

    I've noted this very similar transition in several persons with disabilities I've known.
    LIFE is a great teacher, ruthless and extremely cruel.

    And not only is it true for invalid persons, it's just that with them this phenomenon is much more manifest.

    I know a man (in this lfe) that is gay.

    Well, he sometimes says that when he was a little boy (3-4 years old), when he was playing in a group of other little children - boys and girls - he always chased, embraced and kissed - one by one - all the girls in his group.

    Does this mean, that in his previous life he was straight (and a very active and promiscuous casanova, at that)?

    IMHO.

    Best Regards.
     
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  3. The Traveler

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    yes you right, sure the prooves of my life have make my heart more strong, but als more cold.
    well, when i was a child i ran also to girls too, sometime i told to the little girls that i
    I wanted to marry. if I think about it now I would slap my childhood alter ego alone, considering how much I have suffered in my life from emotional disappointments. ah, blissful naivety ...

    I don't know whether to feel sorry for my past candor or just disgust for a naivety that has made me easy prey to the evil of the world. up to the age of ten it was also fine, but after that it was a continuous battle, which shows no sign of stopping. and I'm starting to get really tired. on my PL in casanova?

    lol, maybe why not? sure i am - was a dreamer,

    i spent so much time observing nature and the stars as a child, whole days. considering my passions and my childhood interests, I think I was a sage or a scholar anyway. the point is that for me many things as a child, rather than learning them from scratch I already knew them instinctively. psychologists said I had above average IQ and mental age.
     
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    Ciao, guaglion:

    I have rather strong indications that in this life I have a higher IQ than what I had in my previous life.

    But I had more success with women in my previous life.

    Though it's difficult to compare, when that life only lasted 25 years.

    I'm strongly convinced that the physical resemblance with anything in our PLs can be only accidental, casual.

    It's ridiculous to say that e.g. one has a scar in his/her neck only because somebody killed him/her with a knife in his/her PL.

    IMHO, of course.

    Best regards.

    I miei migliori auguri per te:

     
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    so you think that ian stevenson research about birth marks of reborn foreign people scattered into the world with comparison of informations from legal medical referts of violent deaths are just a coincidences?
     
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    There are too many "researchers" out there, claiming our exclusive attention.

    If I lived, say, 1000 years (in a single lifetime), well, I might dedicate some of my time to some of them.

    Many are called (think it's their mission to teach the world some "true" vision of the reality), but few are chosen (i.e., succed to discover something really solid).

    I'm too old to waste my time on things that don't even pass the simplest filters of reasonability.
     
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    Unfortunately to succeed is to be chosen by society, a society who's leaders know exactly what we are talking about but don't want anyone else to know. As such they let the quacks through their picket of censorship. They also add incorrect reading techniques. I've been noticing this lately as I peruse other researchers information.

    I think our ego wants us to believe in our own importance, and hence it is easy to appeal to people's need for self worth through flattery. In reality it is probably better to be completely unknown. The subject matter of my chart analyses is unique. I don't do people's charts or anything like that. I invite you to read some of my case studies. https://4dforum.org/case-studies/ . I also post blogs on political, historical and religious topics.
     
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    Now for an on topic point about physical resemblances. I have noticed that people's faces can change over time. I have often found it convenient in my comparisons to use pictures of them when they are in their youth. At least the photos or likenesses should be when the subjects are of a similar age.
     
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    I'm sorry this post is disorganzed as well as my others I'm going to try to start doing it differently after this post. Hey everyone. I've been on a journey learning about my past life since 2017, and I have discovered so much, some actually quite controversial things included. So anyone willing to listen can learn stuff before the egyptologists because hopefully they will find the evidence, maybe even possibly soon with the new discovery of Akhenaten's father's city which to everyone's surprise, it was another city named after the Aten god of the Amarna period. Back about a month before they announced it I was feeling this feeling that something from the lifetime was being uncovered big and not too long later, it was announced. I made sure to tell my pl friend Ophelia from this forum about my feeling because in the past often times those things always pop back up to be confirmed for me, so it's good to have witnesses to it. A good example is one of the first times when I was searching through online images of Amarna talatats. Those are like blocks and pieces of wall relief carvings. I had come across a very beautiful relief carving of a hand. A feeling came across me that it was my own hand. I turned my head at the thought, but I also thought I might just be getting wishful thinking like back when I kept trying to figure out if I could've been Nefertiti, because I knew who she really was, but I didn't want to accept it for awhile. My perspective on her has changed a lot tho, and I've talked to her about it and there's a clear connection between us. After I told her about the 2 different past lives she had which were revealed to me, she was very open about it and interested. She also had a very vivid dream of us hanging out for a whole day and going to see my kid. Me and her havn't gotten to know each other and have barely talked beforehand at all. Somehow I of course felt I just knew her personality, energy, and such. In fact the only conversation we've ever had in person was literally, me telling her I felt like I already knew her like a couple other people. Sometime along my journey I remembered dreams I had before I had ever met either of them (Akhenaten and Nefertiti's reincarnations) they were apart of. When me and her didn't barely even know of each other at all random people would mention to me stuff like that we seemed like cousins or something or that we looked alike. Back at that time we literally had only ever walked past each other I think once. It seemed our schedules (at our highschool) were completely oppossite so we never saw each other. Even her name I didn't know and someone had brought up that we were similar. As in many other cases I had a sense of who she was talking about already and I was trying to have them describe the person and I was right. Those little things have always come in handy to notice. Even this guy in one of my classes liked me. He played weird mind games so I started treating him aloofly, and not feed him. SO, he decided to tell me in the tone of a petty little kid, ( just being honest) that he really liked that girl, and started telling me. It's interesting that the people around me tended to associate us together yet we had nothing to do with each other. Another thing about her is she told me she cries a lot at gender reveal parties. I'm fairly sure that's an effect of her past life as Nefertiti struggling so much to bare a son, having 6 daughters. After a while I have come to feel an unusual love for her. Like a non romantic version of the same love I feel for him. Who is btw, her twinflame. I do believe one of the reasons I've discovered my past lives was to come to that understanding the importance of twinflames, and how no soulmate will fulfill the true needs that were created for them only to be fulfilled by their twin. Her reaction was definitely relieving when I told her about it (some past life stuff). I couldn't help, but tell her, because I would want to be told if I was Nefertiti, it's awesome, and I won't downplay that. It also took a lot of guts because we've had a little feud in the past. There a couple awesome things I wanna mention. I have observed consistent factors from multiple individuals in regards to what I refer to as soul appearance. I figured out how we change and stay the same and I have awesome examples. never once has there shown inconsistency once I fully figured it out, at least mostly. This also matches up with other people's research which I learned after my observations. I am very very observant and I'm the type of person who gets obsessed with finding the truth lol. I like to be 100% sure my mind isn't tricking me. You can't be 100% sure of course without being ignorant. I also want to mention that I didn't find the sculptures of my own face until more recently on my journey. So, just realize the precision of this. I can't make this up I didn't photoshop my face. Someone said earlier in the thread that if we actually measured and truly compared people's faces we would find a lot more difference than we'd expect. That's exactly what I've learned. As you can imagine, being Queen Kiya (the other "beloved" wife of Nefertiti's husband). I would have been constantly compared to her by people. I will finish what I was saying about this in a second sorry my head hurts. That white face was created recently using an ancient casting mould they actually used. I also have a picture of it too.

    thisone.jpg newneweyes.jpg myfacereincarnye.jpg
     
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    Hello. I don't see any problems in your posts. the only note I can make is to go to the end of sentences or periods. Wall texts are difficult to understand, but a well-formatted post is always enjoyable to read.
    mmm, I don't know enough about the physiognomic similarity argument between reincarnated people to have my say about it.
    however, I admit to having seen for those few cases I have examined, a certain similarity, at least in one of the stages of life, between the face of the predecessor and the subsequent incarnation.
    as for me, in all the history I've been looking at so far the only guy with my face is in an old Byzantine mosaic.
     
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    effectly there is a lot of resemblance between you and the ancient queen. o.o
    the problem with physical resemblance is the fact that
    you can also find doubles and physically identical people in real life.
    I met my double at the age of 14 in the hospital myself, he had the same voice and face as mine. but we were completely different in intelligence and mentality. the problem is this: even if two people are physically identical, it is not certain that they share the same soul, although in the case of reincarnate actually some similarutuidine sometimes tends to exist. let's see if I find that analysis again ...

    https://www.researchgate.net/public...rnation_Through_Coincidence_and_Synchronicity
     
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    Hi, everybody.

    Wishful thinking will do miracles in making some pèople sincerely believe they were Julius Caesar or Cleopatra in their PLs, only because of some physical resemblance or some similar habits.

    Somebody said that many dog-owners start resembling their pets after some time of living together - and it may well be true, given the similar way of living and maybe even similar food and drink.

    But I, IMHO, just can't take them seriously.

    To my mind, there are few things so efficient in undermining the prestige and credibility of all reincarnation theories, than propagating such beliefs, because they equiparate reincarnation to a kind of a witchcraft.

    IMHO.

    Best Regards.
     
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    There is a theory about the fact that a person is did by 3 parts: soul, intelligence and body. when someone die souls trasmigrate into afterlife or return to earth, body return to ground... about intelligence, these part is a spirit that be flows and scattered across the universal unconsciunsness mind of the world.
    so, more that been famous persons, is most probably that intelligent spirits affects mind of new borns with their insights.
    i'm not sure if memories are on spirits or on souls... but IMHO should be on boths.
    so memories of a PL can be really memories of PL or can just be influences of the spirit parts that affects childs.
    is hard to tell and is very subjective.
    each case is different.
     
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    My past life claims arn't only based on appearance.

    I found that much later than most of my experiences and it is so exact including other particular things I will mention like how my sister told me about something I had on my face I will talk about. She also had a vivid memory of me and what happened at the time of my death, that is accurate. My experiences began as a child. I'm beginning to post my experiences on the Amarna period.

    People most often say their eyes are the same.
     
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    We should all do a Google image search on the internet of various versions of our own pictures to see if any pictures of us in our previous lives made it to the internet via historical archives.
    All kidding aside, I think a physical resemblance is definitely possible when, say, a deceased grandfather reincarnates as his later born grandson or great grandson. I wouldn’t call that proof either solely on its own without other evidence.
     
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    my unique resemblance i found on google some years ago was vague, about a guy into an ancient byzantine mosaic, but i not know nothing about him and i never found the provenience of the picture. :(
     

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