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Five year-old boy remembers a life in the movies.

Nightrain

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On Saturday, April 30th, 2011, (at 11:00 PM) the Biography Channel will be airing a documentary on the "Unexplained" Series featuring Dr. Jim Tucker and a five year-old boy who remembers being a Hollywood actor during the 1930's.
One day in the middle of a small rural town in Oklahoma, a five year old boy begins telling his mother extensive details about his 1930's life in Hollywood. He was rich. He had a big house with a swimming pool. Rita Hayworth made him "icy drinks". The mother checks out a couple of Hollywood library books. Then on a random page with a black and white film still that had no captions, the boy points to a man in a hat and screams, "That's me! You found me mommy! That's me, and that's George!"
Presumably, the release, which is scheduled to be at 11:00 PM (EDS), may likely be shown only in the U.S.
 
Here's hoping this is the right place to mention this.


For every child who makes the "news" about having had a Past Life (PL), one has to wonder how many more there are out there? :confused:


However because of parental denial ranging from scorn and/or ridicule to just plain indifference, a lot of these PL incidents fall by the roadside, so to speak.


As you well know, the age of 5 almost falls in the middle of the generally accepted range (generally when they begin to speak to about 7 years of age) where they still remember their PL (IF they are going to remember it at all).


You have some children who seem to have absolutely NO recollection whatsoever to children who remember a PL well.


So one has to wonder (or at least I do) why does the "anti-memory soul dip" (for want of a better phrase) where the memory of a PL is forgotten when the child is reborn into a new lifetime, works well for some children and not others.


Perhaps (with tongue in cheek) :) when a soul is dipped into the "anti-memory solution" it sometimes doesn't completely cover the soul (perhaps the head and shoulders doesn't get dipped) and the soul goes on to remember it's PL in the next life. :D


Just curious about this, any thoughts on this?
 
I wonder about that also, Hydrolad. As a child I remembered very clearly a past life while having parents that didn't even believe in reincarnation. As a parent, I was waiting for my oldest to talk about a previous life and I just assumed he would at some point. He's an adult now and has never remembered anything pastlife related. So I've ruled out parenting as a reason why some remember and some don't.


I'm thinking one of the reasons may have to do with needing to remember, even though reasons may vary. I know I only remember one life clearly but I'm assuming there are others. Why would that one particular life be so vivid to me while others are uncertain? Maybe those who don't remember didn't see that it was needed to live this one? Also possible are forgetting for the same reasons people forget about things in their present lives such as serious traumas they can't deal with or opposite of that where something was just plain boring, or uninteresting. How many moments from childhood stick out in anyones mind were they were bored stiff vs. how many something exciting was going on.


That may account for why people remember lives where there was lots of drama, trauma, and/or fame or prestige. It was interesting. You'll remember those moments in school were you got beat up by the bully, or you were the bully doing the beating rather than the kid quietly playing on the swings, behaving. Just the same you'll remember the school play better were you were the lead or you were the one who fell off the stage better than the one where you played the tree and you just stood there undisturbed, lol.
 
I was just wondering this myself. Why do I recall only certain lives? The lives I do remember were filled with passion, whether of the impatient kind or the "lust for life" kind. Surely I had some other lives besides the ones I recall, and surely something noteworthy happened in them!
 
I tend to agree with both of you. :)


Although there is an additional explanation perhaps, that through some unknown formula from the "Other Side" we are destined to remember only the Past Lives (PL) that will help us in this lifetime.


So we remember some lives and not others, but I wonder now, does this mean, that when the situation arises, we can start to remember forgotten PL's, that is, the PL connected with that situation, so we can better handle that problem.


Just wondering to myself again! :)
 
hydrolad said:
You have some children who seem to have absolutely NO recollection whatsoever to children who remember a PL well.
So one has to wonder (or at least I do) why does the "anti-memory soul dip" (for want of a better phrase) where the memory of a PL is forgotten when the child is reborn into a new lifetime, works well for some children and not others.
When I first started talking about past lives at the age of 3 and 4, my testimony continued up to the age of 12. I had three other siblings. One parent had a total disbelief toward reincarnation -and the other tried to take a neutral stand and keep an open mind.


But this was one of the things my parents pointed out. If kids recalled past lives - why didn't my other 3 siblings start talking about it - and why didn't they recall it from their own childhood.


As a child - I would ask 'spirits' the answer to this and at my age now - it is hard to find the answers I was given which are hidden away in the 'unconscious.' The only thing I can recall is - it wasn't their chosen path. I remember arguing with my Mom - that she (as a soul prior to birth) hadn't choose this sort of memory for herself.


Of course - it is probably a little more complex than what we think of as making a human choice. I know I said something to her in the heat of an argument about 'earning' the right for that choose. I didn't understand that as a child and was just repeating what I had been told in a 'spiritual vision.'


I do love to see stories and presentations that involve children being taken seriously about their claims of memories from a past life.


Thanks for sharing the information with us nightrain1


DK
 
I hope to somehow be able to watch this in Germany (possibly via youtube afterwards). I am a little worried that they picked a case where a child remembers the life of a famous person. I hope that it will be made very clear that this is not typical in those cases and that the children most often remember ordinary, even miserable lifes...But I think Dr. Tucker will do a great job! Maybe someone would like to post a brief overwiev of the case? I would appreciate it!
 
Darn It! Foiled Again!


I'd love to see the documentary on the 5 year old boy recalling a Past Life. :)


However I checked my cable channel guide and once again I can't receive it. :grr:


Maybe I do really need to get the next tier of channels, but I don't watch enough TV as it is. :rolleyes:
 
I don't have a problem with people who recall being someone famous. After all, famous people get reborn, too, so they're likely to remember those lives. Lives of such fame (or notoriety) would, after all, have to be pretty memorable, wouldn't they? The problem is when you have seven different people claiming to have been Napoleon or Queen Victoria, they can't all be right. (I don't believe in the one-soul-multiple-simultaneous-lives at the moment.)


Where I have another problem is when these people "recall" being someone famous but only know the "official" information. For example, if someone in the future were to recall being actor Nicolas Cage in a past life and constantly referred to them as Nicolas 'Cage', I'd be suspicious because 'Cage' is his stage name.


I also put my skeptic-glasses on when a person is claiming a grand, powerful, or heroic life, something like Charlemagne, King Arthur, Cleopatra, etc. It often sounds like so much ego-stroking to me, so I tend to dig deeper than I otherwise would if that person was claiming to be a merchant or a peasant. I will try to lay traps, catching one "Marie Antoinette" who apparently didn't know what her own words "Let them eat cake" referred to.


Did you ever notice, though, while everybody and his brother claims to have been Marc Antony, Julius Caesar, George Washington, King Richard, etc., so far nobody has been too forthcoming with having been Adolph Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Joe Stalin, Herman Goerring, Joseph Goebbels, Heinrich Himmler, Reinhard Heydrich, Ayatollah Khomeini, or any other evil bastards?
 
I don't remember if I was anyone famous, if I was I would be one surprised soul. :confused:


Being famous comes in different disguises, however if I was to be found famous in a Past Life (PL), I would rather be the best (and therefore the most famous) ____________ (Baker, Cobbler, you supply the occupation) in the whole area! :)


As I can only remember only two PL dreams so far, and one was as a young child who died from an wild animal, I'm in no danger of being famous there.


The second PL that I can remember in the most detail, is that of a young WWII RAF pilot who quite possibly nosedived into the English Channel defending his country from the Nazis and died.


And I don't remember if I had been somebody evil either, but I would not wish it so, I would hope that down through the mists of time that I had been basically a good person, or at least I hope I was! :)
 
Five year-old boy remembers a life in the movies as Marty Martin


Now, that this half-hour program has aired in the United States, it will be interesting to see the opinions of others who have viewed the program. Considering the 102 memories that Dr. Jim Tucker (a noted researcher and respected protege of Dr. Ian Stevenson) recorded as being made by the boy, it seems that a mere half-hour program could not have even barely scratched the surface of what appears to be a very important case. And, considering that 90 of those memories were verified by Dr. Tucker's investigation, the story seems compelling at the very least. Add to these considerations the fact that the actor, Marty Martin, was not well-known, and that information about him was relatively obscure, it seems very unlikely that the boy would have stumbled on such information by any means other than paranormal. In addition, the obvious anxiety of the mother regarding her son's nightmares was quite evident, and would have been quite difficult for even a trained actor to portray.


All in all, the only difficulty I had with the production was that it was put together and edited in a rather light fashion, not sufficient to impart the importance that this story deserves. And, I suspect that we may be hearing a great deal more about this case as it becomes better known, now that this program has aired.
 
Agreed. There are many more plain, everyday people in this time and so there were even many more plain, everyday people in the past.


I am cautious about those who claim to have been a king or famous author or inventor.
 
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He is actually now 10 years old


Meet the 10-year-old son of Baptist parents who has baffled experts with his vivid and accurate accounts of a past life dancing on Broadway and acting opposite Mae West


He has acted opposite Mae West, tripped the light fantastic on The Great White Way and even partied with Rita Hayworth - and now Ryan is sharing his stories about life during the Golden Age of Hollywood.


The only problem is that Ryan is a 10-year-old boy from Muskogee, Oklahoma who was born to Baptist parents. The amazing life he describes belongs to actor and Hollywood agent Marty Martin.


Ryan says it was his past life.


His vast knowledge, vivid recollections and stunningly accurate descriptions of the era have convinced even experts that the young man may have in fact been reincarnated.


It all began when Ryan was just 4 years old, his mother Cyndi told Today. She says he began having nightmares that neither she or her husband, a local police officer, could find a way to stop.


He would talk about his heart exploding and, more than anything, Hollywood, a place that was thousands of miles away from Oklahoma.


What's more, the reserved youngster would always speak in a matter-of-fact manner during these times.


Then, after a year of this, he finally sat down his mom.


'He said "Mom, I have something I need to tell you,"' said Cyndi.


'I used to be somebody else.'


Having been raised Baptist, Cyndi did not believe in reincarnation or past lives, and decided to hide her son's admission from his father.


But she slowly became curious and then somewhat convinced the more her son spoke of Hollywood, his five marriages, lavish trips to Europe, his old homes and how all his acting clients kept changing their last names, so she decided to start doing some research on Hollywood during the studio era and shared some of the books she found at the local library with her son.


Then, one day, Ryan had a breakthrough when he saw a still from the from the 1932 movie Night After Night starring Mae West.


'That's me,' Ryan told his mother.


Ryan was pointing to an extra in the film, a man with no lines that they later learned was bit-actor-turned-agent Marty Martin.


That is when Cyndi decided Ryan should talk to someone, and the family found Dr. Jim Tucker, a highly respected child psychiatrist from the University of Virginia who has spent time talking with and studying children who claim to remember past lives.


And even he noted there was something very special, and different, about Ryan.


Most remarkable to Dr. Tucker, besides Ryan's incredible detail, was how accurate his claims matched up with the life of Martin, a virtual unknown who neither Ryan's family nor Dr. Tucker knew anything about, even his name, until they reached out to a film archivist.


The film archivist gave them the name, and they then contacted one of Martin's daughters to ask about his life.


That is when they discovered that 55 of Ryan's statements matched up perfectly with Martin's life - including the street he lived on, how many children he had, how many siblings he had and those aforementioned five marriages.


The most shocking claim however came when Ryan told Dr. Tucker during a session one day that he wondered why God had him die at 61-years-old only to be reincarnated as a baby.


This seemed to clash with Martin's death report, that stated he was 59 at the time he died.


That is until Dr. Tucker looked through old census reports and discovered that the certificate, and not Ryan, was incorrect.


The certificate claimed Martin was born in 1905 when in fact he had been born in 1903 according to the census.


And so, Martin was likely 61 years old at the time of his death.


Ryan now says his memories of Martin are starting to fade, and as for Dr. Tucker, he has compiled Ryan's story and other like it in his book Return To Life.
 
There is also an older video of this made when Ryan was about 5 or 6. He has gained a lot of weight since the earlier video was made. In fact, it's kind of shocking. The original video was an episode of a show called "The Unexplained" on the Bio/A&E cable channel. I checked to see if it is on YouTube but it doesn't seem to be there. Here is an interesting interview with Dr. Jim Tucker.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...1d62d736d1fbaac8c8d323eee2579e8c&action=click
 
Similar facial features?


To determine if similar facial features are apparent, it would be interesting to compare a photo of Mr.Martyn as a kid (if a photo is available) with the present-day Ryan.
 
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