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How Children Experience Time

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In her book Children of the New Millennium -P.M.H. Atwater thanks her father - a policeman in Idaho for teaching her the techniques of investigative fieldwork which later evolved into the research protocol she used.
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......The Temporal Lobes are those sections of the brain located at or near the temples. Traditionally, the temporal lobes are referred to as the "patterning center,' that place where original blueprints of shape and form are stored. For this reason they are thought to be the seat of imagination.

I have searched through studies done on childhood behavior development for anything that might explain why--- and learned that kids between three and five have no natural sense of time or space. They gain this sense by projecting into the future and by intuitively engaging with futuristic ideas, images, feelings and sensations. The future does not appear as the future to children. To them it is merely another aspect of "now.".........."

Later in the book she goes on -

To understand children's cases, we must keep in mind that kids are tuned into different harmonics than adults. Concepts of life and death leave them with puzzled faces. "I don't end or begin anywhere," a youngster once told me. "I just reach out and catch the next wave that goes by and hop a ride. That's how I got here.

It's a great book loaded with research and interesting NDE's of children..
 
The future does not appear as the future to children. To them it is merely another aspect of "now.".........."
I think this is because they expect to be around in future as we all should. This is their explanation, not mine, as seen below:
"I don't end or begin anywhere," a youngster once told me.
Another child once said:
na tu eva ahaM jAtu n'AsaM, na ime jan'AdhipAH;
na ch'aiva na bhavishyAmaH sarve vayam ataH param.
..... Bhagavad Gita

Never was there a time when I was not, nor you, nor yet these princes, nor will there be a time when we shall cease to be, - all of us hereafter.
..... Trans. by R.C. Zaehner
 
I am not sure I see the connection between reference to the Temporal Lobes and children's time perception; (?)
 
I think kids are so much in present time, that all time is now.

They are still closest to when they were spirit.

I noticed for myself that especially while I was doing psychic training, time was much harder to judge. Today, yesterday, six months ago....whatever.

My friends too got them confused routinely.

--Amy
 
Question

Does anyone have a child that has expressed something similiar to what Atwater quoted a child to have said ----:

"I don't end or begin anywhere," a youngster once told me. "I just reach out and catch the next wave that goes by and hop a ride. That's how I got here.

I find the term WAVE an interesting concept for understanding spiritual experiences. Reminds me of frequencies, and layers of vibration regarding sound. It also rings true for the hologram especially when the child said they didn't begin or end anywhere.
 
For Vicky - KimD and others........

I am bringing this to the top - since it has been a while and I think it is an important aspect of children's experiences.
 
Deborah,

Can't relay anything from a childs point of view. Catching the wave though - absolutely!! I view the worlds as made up of light and sound often understood as energy in its rawest form. It flows out from the highest reaches of heaven or planes and flows down toward the physical worlds. It is this energy that we tap into when looking at prospective lives and when the conditions are right we jump on (like surfing) and catch the wave riding it to its end (death) and soul catches a different wave back to it's home. Like the energy flowing through our bodies this wave of energy flows in a circle.

Jack
 
Timelessness and synesthesia

I have....learned that kids between three and five have no natural sense of time or space. They gain this sense by projecting into the future and by intuitively engaging with futuristic ideas, images, feelings and sensations. The future does not appear as the future to children. To them it is merely another aspect of "now.".........."

People may not see what I'm bringing up as being directly related but I see an echo of this concept in the condition known as synesthesia.

Synesthesia is a neurological condition in which a stimulus in one sense modality is involuntarily elicited in another sense modality. For instance, someone with synesthesia (called a synesthete) may be able to see sounds, taste shapes, or read otherwise black-and-white printed words in color.

Synesthesia is thought to occur in anywhere from one in as few as 1:2 to 1:2,000 people. In infant (and younger) humans, it has been shown that synesthesia could even be standard up until three months of age, in that infants may at least see sounds, if not have other synesthetic perceptions. Synesthesia is also thought to commonly occur in other types of animals as well.
(emphasis added)

To clarify, a child's natural tendency to "merge" our defined version of time - past, present, future - into one giant, eternal paradoxical "NOW", mirrors the INFANT'S natural synesthetic state to merge our defined version of sight, sound, smell, touch and taste into an expanded experience of multiple senses being activated by some event/object typically associated with less than those in use within a synesthete.

Or, to get all metaphorical - maybe this will be easier to absorb than the previous sentence :laugh: - rather than experience an event from a single side, the infant/synesthete experiences the event from multiple sides simultaneously. I.e.; hearing music, feeling music and seeing vibrant colors and forms, a different one for each and every note comprising the music.

I think this might lend even more credibility to the theory that children have a naturally expanded awareness and thus have more direct access to other dimensions/realities/consciousnesses/whatever you'd want to call it.


To understand children's cases, we must keep in mind that kids are tuned into different harmonics than adults. Concepts of life and death leave them with puzzled faces. "I don't end or begin anywhere," a youngster once told me. "I just reach out and catch the next wave that goes by and hop a ride. That's how I got here."

I too love the relation between the idea of "the next wave" and different vibrations. The concept of riding a passing wave and landing here implies a criss-crossing of various waves hitting different shores - and this existence is just one shore of many. :) Again, this echoes the concept of an undefined expanse, perceived as separated into sections only via sensory limitation.

I remember, when I was probably 4 or 5 years old telling my mother, "But the universe has ALWAYS been here and it'll be here forever and ever. How is it possible that the universe was 'born' and that it'll 'die'? Haven't I always been here too, Momma?" We had just watched a documentary on the big bang theory, the "birth of the universe" being the film's key phrase and "will the universe die in a violent collapse or a whispering sigh?" Something like that.

I could not, for the life of me, fathom a "beginning" or an "end" and I STILL have difficulty with it now. :laugh: I remember huffing and feeling so frustrated that the scientists couldn't see it that way, that this "end to all things" was indisputable fact. THEN I started worrying that my understanding of everything was all wrong. And I haven't quite recovered since. :tongue: However, I think, the soul knows, feels it despite what the brain and senses think.
 
Chansa's post

Your post made me think of Scriabin, the composer. I think recalling pl's should be inherently S.

Anyway, check out this quote and I will link it below it.

"Sensory fusion became a frequent idea in art, literature and music. Russian composer Alexander Scriabin (1872-1915) expressed his own synesthesia in his symphony "Prometheus, the Poem of Fire" written in 1910 - 'The symphony was written for a large orchestra with piano, organ and choir. It also included a mute key-board which controlled the play of colored light in the form of beams, clouds, and other shapes, flooding the concert hall and culminating in a white light so strong as to be "painful to the eyes" [1]. Vasily Kandinsky (1866-1944) was another synesthetic artist who explored the relationship between sound and color and often used musical terms to describe his paintings as 'improvisations' or 'compositions'. Arthur Rimbaud's (1854-1891) poems had direct reference to synesthetic perceptions."
 
Anyone care to comment on how children experience time?

Very interesting Chansa - Thanks you for sharing. ;)
 
Do any parents notice their children expressing an awareness of TIME differently than the status quo?
 
What a great topic! I look forward to hearing what children have said.


I also enjoyed the comparision to synathesia. (spelling?) I have always seen words in my head as colors and every letter has a color. Some names are particularly strong color, and I used to figure everyone else thought that way too when I was little.
 
I see time as a concept that is tied with emotions and feelings of aloneness. If we feel seperate and have a fear of seperation we are longing to be in our past if that time seemed nicer, or in our future if we have imagination. This would explain why for a child having trauma is that much harder to cope with. A child has no reference point for their mind to recreate that experience.


If a child is happy , then they feel they can remain safe in their present. As we grow we try to hold onto the things that make us beleive will lead to a recreation of those times forever.. We get so attached to our beleifs of what will make us happy it can be hard to change'. As we age our understanding of our end grows and so we cling harder to those things .. unless we have faith in our future and in the purpose of working at making a change.


soulfreindly
 
Deborah said:
Do any parents notice their children expressing an awareness of TIME differently than the status quo?
You posed this question Deborah and I thought about it - I don't know if my son is different than the status quo per se but I find it neat how he thinks of time. He dosn't really seem to have a concept of the future because yes everything nearly seems to be NOW to him. Aside from that he has a term that he started using when he was 3 and he still uses it (he is nearly 5 now) which at first I thought he was saying "yesterday" but the more I listened the more I began to understand... He refers to past events that are not necessarily yesterday as "lasterday" indicating that it is something he remembers but it didn't happen physically yesterday. I learned that these two terms indeed did have different meaning for him as he uses the word yesterday in context correctly. When he seems to be relating past life memories, he always refers to that time as "before" such as saying "before, when I was big..." seems as in before now I guess.


Interesting topic


Dori
 
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