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Same family reincarnation

WrenMother

WrenMother

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Hello all. Newbie here. I am thrilled to have found this forum. I have recently realized the possibility that my son may be my dad who passed suddenly 2 weeks before my son's birth in 11/04. I didnt think this was possible after reading about the rarity of these cases in Destiny of Souls until I discovered Carol Bowman and Ian Stevenson.

I haven't had any direct evidence for this except for the fact then when my dad passed, I was unusually calm and centered, and was sure that he was right there with me. It didn't occur to me then that he may have actually been "in" me! The possibility of this has thrown me for quite a loop and I look forward to interacting with those of you with similar experiences.
 
Welcome to the forum, WrenMother! :)

It is quite possible that your son is your dad reincarnated.
Studies have shown that reincarnation in the same family is very common.:)
It would be interesting to pay attention to your son's behavior and memories in the next few years...
I suggest you write everything down since kids tend to forget when they get older. ;)
Have you tried showing him some pictures of your dad yet?
 
Thank you Fab!

My son is only one and I haven't shown him a picture yet but I will now! I actually plan to make an appointent with Carol Bowman for a regression so I hope that will shed some light on this topic. As it turns out, she lives in my hometown!
Thanks for writing back.
 
:thumbsup: That's great!
I am glad you will get to know Carol! :)
I would love to hear about your regression later if you're willing to share. ;)
 
Welcome to the forum WrenMother! :)

Fab has given you already good advise and you have also come up with good ideas yourself. :thumbsup:

Keep us posted!

Karoliina
 
Thanks for the links! I actually have Children's Past Lives and didn't realize that Carol Bowman was the author when I e mailed her after seeing that she lived in Media (from the Michael Newton website). So I was stunned and delighted to learn that the person with whom I was corresponding was the author of the book I am currently reading!
I'm desperate to know if my son is my dad. He's only 14 months so there aren't many ways to tell yet I guess. I hope Carol can help with this.
I especially loved the link to the thread about the grandmother and the little girl.
thanks again!
 
Welcome WrenMother!

You've already been given some great advice, but I just wanted to say hi and I hope that you enjoy the forum ;)

Ailish
 
You're welcome! :)
Have you read Carol's second book "Return From Heaven" yet?
If you haven't yet i suggest you do. It's awesome! ;)
I am glad you enjoyed that thread!
There are a lot of fascinating stories in the Children's Section.
Here is one of my favorites:

Chapter #7 - Facing Abortion
 
Wow

Thats an incredible link too. Thank you! I actually just ordered Return from Heaven but haven't received it yet. I'm very anxious to get started though.
It's so great to be here! Thanks so much!
 
I haven't anything to add, but just wanted to say welcome. :)

I have a feeling there are a lot more same family incarnations out there than we realize. I don't know about everyone else, but every time I hear some one comment on how much a child reminds them of a deceased relative, I can't help but wonder if maybe it is. :)

Good luck on your regression. :)
 
Thanks to you Chelle

And to all of you who have made me feel so welcome here.

Blessings and peace to you:)

WM
 
My daughter and my grandmother

WrenMother said:
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I especially loved the link to the thread about the grandmother and the little girl.
thanks again!
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Hi Wrenmother and welcome!!,
I'm somehow "new" here too, only two or three months.
I just wanted to share with you that my daughter, Natalia, used to tell me, for a long time, that she was my grandmother. This happened when she was 2 years old, and went on for a while. I don't know if you read that link, which I called "My daughter and my grandmother".
She is a young woman now, and doesn't remember what she said, but she still behaves, more and more, like my beloved grandmother did when she was alive. I am completely convinced that they are the same soul, and that she came back again out of love, because I was so devastated when she died.
Good luck with your regression. I'll have one next week too.
 
My grandmother died in 2001 of cancer. My 2 1/2 year never got to meet her, but when i was getting old pictures out for the family, she grabbed a younger picture of my grandmother and said "me mommy me, then she said, thats ur little granny"...i was like WHAT???!! She talks really plain for a 2 1/2 year old....So i asked her, how do you know thats granny?....she then looked at me with confusion, "dont u 'member me mommy?"......she doesnt act or seem to be my grandmother....my grandmother was always quiet and reserved, my daughter is a very, very hyper little girl with lots of energy...

She doesnt even favor my grandmother...She looks more like my husband and his mom...We never talk about my grandmother in front of her....I havent even set her pictures out, i loved her very much and i still cant handle her death all that well...She was diagnosed with cancer in August of 2001 and died Sept 2001.....So how does a 2 1/2 yr old know who my grandmother is and ask me why i dont remember her??....

I hope to someday understand all the things my daughters have said and done...I have started a journal to keep things written down, i know someday they wont remember...I feel blessed to have those little moments of remembering.....


So who knows WrenMother...Its possible he could be ur dad...hopefully he'll start giving you clues or messages that will help you understand if he is or isnt....Just listen and write everything down....
 
Dear Wren,
Of course, if one believes in reincarnation, it is a possibility that your son may be your father come back to you. However, it may be prudent to not get too committed to proving that your son is your father reincarnated. I mean, you probably miss your father sorely, and wish that he were back in your life. A belief that your son is your father relieves the ache in your heart for him. The short interval between the death of your father and your son's birth may suggest that your father is NOT your son. Now, I know there are cases where people reportedly have reincarnated immediately after their death but if there really is another reality, more perfected than physical reality, into which we enter after the death of the body, then why would one want to leave it so quickly and return to earth. Unless your father had some strong desire to return to complete some unfinished business or had some obsession with physical life then I think it is unlikely that your son is your father reincarnated. But, of course neither I nor anyone else really knows.

Why don't you just let things unfold as they will. If it is for you to know that your son is your father then you will, in time, know it. He may give you clues to suggest that he has knowlegdge of your father's life. Undergoing a regression now may not be the thing for your to do, nor may it be in the best interest of your son. Your son is taking in your anxieties now about the death of your father and he may at a later date try accommodate you in your wish for your father's return. Perhaps it is in his best interest to let him have a new life, free of any spillover from a past life.

I definitely would not show him pictures of your dad now. Your son is only a little over a year old. He is taking in everything around him and showing him pictures to elicit some response is invalidating anything he may say in the future. Your interaction with him over your dad's pictures or other discussions of your dad's lifenow is not good.

In fact, I think that anything that your son may say in the future, perhaps, will be contaminated by your actions now and in the future. The validity of anything and everything he may say can easily be questioned due to his association with you at this early age and his discernment of your wishes for your father to return to you. From what you have written, I see no reason to believe that your son is your father returned to you. Unless he has said something relevant to past life recall, I think that it would be best for him,--- and for you too---to tuck this desire of yours in the back of your mind, and just wait to see what happens.

Please understand that I in no way want to be critical of your desire for your father's return and mean no offense, but it may be better if you deal with your own emotions surrounding the death of your father and try not to engage your little son in some fantasy wish fulfillment - Your friend, Wicker
 
Welcome to the forum wrenmother,

I am glad you are seeking professional help with your son. Carol Bowman will give you the best advise possible. I am sure of that.

Wicker, I would like to remind you that wrenmother is here due to matters of the heart. Your reply -- although you mean well -- not only passes judgment on her situation but is rather discouraging at best. The whole story - is not on the forum..

Wrenmother, in my experience a past live expereince never reveals what I expect. It is the unexpected that enables the deeper implications of the souls journey. We look forward to reading about your experience with Carol and wish you and your son the best.

Many Blessings............
 
Deborah,
What can I say. Apparently I didn't say the "accepted" thing. Sorry!

You know, not everybody believes wholeheartedly in the theory of reincarnation. Not every tale of reincarnation has validity. I think it is important to remind everyone here that if the theory of reincarnation is to gain any validity as an area of scientific research, we especially, need to present an honest sounding board for those who are searching for answers.

I know that we all want to be accepting and supporting to those who post on this board but, we do a disservice to them if we encourage them in concocting a fantasy of reincarnation where no evidence exists to support that fantasy. - Your friend, Wicker
 
Wicker,

I understand your point of view. In my post I stated that you were passing judgments - which is not fair communication, no matter what your point of view is. When in doubt - ASK questions first.

As far as Stevenson goes; Many adults have gone through regressions with wonderful and insightful success. As a form of validation..of course not. Most memories cannot be confirmed. The healing that takes place is the most important factor. Please remember that. Any professional will tell you the same - including Stevenson. Unless of course it is being used as a form of validation - which is of course another issue.
 
To everyone,
I had a brief email exchange with WrenMother and clarified a point for her: reincarnation in the same family can occur in less than nine months after a death, even within hours. She had read in one of Michael Newton's books, or elsewhere, that there is a long or set intermission between lives. That does not appear to be true from the cases I've seen, and from Dr. Stevenson's research. And, since time really doesn't exist, a soul may have an interlife or afterlife experience which may appear to be only minutes in our constructs of time. (Think of the documented near-death experiences that unfold in only minutes; they seem like lifetimes to those who have experienced them.)

I suggested that WrenMother read Return From Heaven so she will have some context for any behaviors, statements, similarities between her son and father--if they show up. I don't suggest imposing an identity on a child if you suspect a reincarnation case. Hold back and see what shows up. I agree with Wicker: don't show him any pictures yet. He's too young. Wait, WrenMother, and see what unfolds naturally. Don't feed him any suggestions.

I do not agree with Dr. Stevenson's assessment of hypnotic regression. Yes, in some cases the mind can fill in with fantasy material, but not in all cases. I have had my own profound experiences with it that have been very healing and insightful, bringing into focus deep feelings and vivid images that I had had since childhood. If I had these memories as a child, why wouldn't they be valid as an adult? The only difference was that as a child they came up spontaneously and I had no idea what they were; as an adult they came up again while I was in a light trance state, and by that time I had a context for them. (I speak for thousand of others who have had similar experiences through hypnotic regression.)


I actually had the opportunity to discuss this with Dr. Stevenson during dinner on a couple of occasions when we were investigating some cases together. Nothing Dr. Stevenson said convinced me that hypnotic regression is not a legitimate means to access past life memories. I know what I've experienced and witnessed. He has never tried it, to my knowledge.

A scientific approach to validate these memories is valuable, and I applaud Drs. Stevenson and Tucker for their work. However, I think that there is a subjective quality to these memories that can't be validated by their methods. To paraphrase Deborah, these are matters of the heart. These feelings can help us identify a family member who has reincarnated, or instill in us a knowing that goes beyond rational explanation.

PixieFaerie:
Elisabeth Hallett has written a couple of great books about pre-birth communication: the one that comes to mind is Soul Trek. I learned something from interesting from her research: sometimes a deceased member of the family--usually a grandparent, but not necessarily--has contact with an incoming soul to the family, and asks as a spiritual escort for the incoming soul. Very young children recognize these relatives in pictures or they talk about them to their astonished parents. It is possible that your daughter had contact with your grandmother before she was born--or she could have been connected to her in a previous life. Hard to determine from what your daughter said.

Carol
 
Wow!

How did I miss all of this yesterday?!
Where to begin?
Wicker, I was/am not offended by your posts. I actually appreciate the honesty and insight. To clarify a few things, I rest comfortably in the fact that I most certainly am not imposing some fantasy of revisiting my father onto my son. I would live perfectly happily knowing that my dad was only on the other side. I feel close to him regardless. We were/are both spiritual people and I don't need him here physically to maintain that closeness. That's originally why I assumed I was so calm during the time that he died. In fact as Carol stated, it didn't even occur to me until she mentioned the possibility very recently that my son is my dad. I actually have very mixed emotions about this, so it's not a fantasy I assure you. I just REALLY want to know so that I can resolve my emotions about it either way. Also like Carol stated, it occured to me that on the other side, if time is not measured as it is here, then "quickly" to us is probably non-existent.
I won't show my son pictures of my dad now but I would like to add that he has always acted very intensely towards certain pictures, even as a newborn, namely pictures of my paternal grandmother (excited/animated/fixated). I do have a degree in psychology and I'm very aware of how I treat my son but as I said, I appreciate your insight and your honesty.
Carol I'm happy that you saw my posts and "recognized" me. I believe that I was led to you for a reason. I appreciate very much you taking the time to consider my situation. I hope to meet you in person soon! Thanks again.

PixieFaerie thank you for sharing your story. It's remarkable and I loved reading it.
Monica, will you share your regression story?
 
Dear Wrenmother,

Thank you, Wrenmother, for not being offended by my post to you. I certainly had no intent to offend you in any way. Please forgive me!

Your response included an interesting comment which helps me to understand how you came to think that your son might be your father. Thanks for the insight. - Your Friend, Wicker:)
 
Wicker

What was it that I said that gave you insight? Was it that the possibility didn't occur to me until Carol Bowman mentioned it? I'd like to clarify that.
I did state in my original post that after reading Michael Newton's books that I thought the possibility of same family reincarnation didn't exist (or was at least very rare). So it wasn't accurate for me to say that it never occured to me.
It did but I dismissed the idea, until my eyes were open to the possibility.
 
WrenMother,

Welcome, and how wonderful that your father may have returned as your son. He must love you very much to have come back to you so quickly.
 
I love reading these's past lives. And speaking of families being together in PL. My Mother and me were best friends in one past life. We owned a cleaning business. My mother and me are most like best friends than mother and daughter. My brother and me were together in a past life to. He was killed infrount of me that's all I can remember.
 
CountryAngel12 said:
I love reading these's past lives. And speaking of families being together in PL. My Mother and me were best friends in one past life. We owned a cleaning business. My mother and me are most like best friends than mother and daughter. My brother and me were together in a past life to. He was killed infrount of me that's all I can remember.
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My daughter and I were grandmother and granddaughter in my past life. Previously, in an Egyptian incarnation, she was my mother too.


Sometimes, in this life, she feels very protective and I have to remind her of our present roles. :thumbsup:
 
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