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Sunday, December 19th 1943

Hippy16

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Well I haven’t regressed in over a month, so I decided to try today, since I wasn’t tired, and fairly calm. So anyways, I went under fairly quickly, and fairly deep. I felt very far away. So anyways, as usual I return to the same house and walk inside. I walk in and I feel cold, I see our Christmas tree is up, in the corner of the living room by the window. I see cards hanging on the wall. And the same family portrait of me, my husband, and daughter as I saw in another regression. I peek in the kitchen. I feel very groggy. The house is dark, like its dusk outside, kinda blue gray, I look out the window its looks like it will snow. I got upstairs to my bedroom, and I am touching the wooden post on my bed, its round, and I notice how round the end is. I see the calendar says December 19th 1943, Its Sunday! Look it up if you don’t believe me, but it really was a Sunday again!! How does this keep happening?? I mean this to me, means what I am seeing is real, because what are the chances of always seeing an actual date? Hm, I just looked at my last regression, and I also returned to 1943. I wonder why that year is significant? So anyways I look in the mirror and my hair is different, I feel I got it done, for the holidays. Its real curly and round, not my typical style, and I don’t like it. I have black pointed high heels on, and I am putting on this khaki coat, and covering my head with a scarf. I then grab my bag and walk outside, and continue walking down the street, until it tells me to go to my job. I am then at this building again, upstairs, there are a lot of desk with woman on typewriters, a lot of stuff scattered about. I see a man come out of an office, he is carrying a box of stuff, he has a white dress shirt and gray pants, he is balding and fat. I say something to him, and I’m talking to the other girls, I’m not sure what I was doing. I also noticed I was the head of something. I said, “ I’m the head of…” I was telling someone that. I felt really happy, and important at this point. I’m not sure what year it was, but I felt it was 1946 or 47 (this was at the end of my life) And I thought to myself, how did I let all of this go.

So then I return to my childhood in that life, it is 1924 and I say I look around 14. I am in the back room, and doing something with my hair. My mom is in her bed, and she is sick. It tells me to ask her for a message, and she says some random things. The says “You are your worst enemy, don’t let you get the best of you.” Then I leave. I see our flowers planted outside. I bump into someone by the road, and say sorry. I’m not sure who he was. Looked like a mailman, or something like that.
Then I go to a bad memory. So I am in the kitchen, and its 1934. I am on a rampage, I am throwing stuff around, and I break a beer bottle on the wall. My husband is trying to calm me down, but I am hitting him, and crying to him. Then I fall down into a chair and am crying and flailing about. (at this point I, meaning me, am watching this in horror, I couldn’t understand why I would be acting like this) My daughter is real little, if its 1934, she is 4 years old. I go upto her and slap her really hard and start beating her around until my husband grabs me, and at this point I start crying in real life, I couldn’t believe I was beating my daughter. I know I was drunk, or on something, I just don’t know what was going on. And I am saying I will never do it again, and I keep repeating that. I then pull away from the memory. I just could not believe I would do that.

Then to a happy memory, I am little again, and I’m laying in the grass, and its warm, and its summer, and ahh it was just such a good memory to make me feel better. I just remembered, I then said I wanted to see Richard. So I am with him, and we are kissing, and hugging. It’s 1929. I am already married to Charles. Then Richard is carrying me inside his hotel room, I can picture the hotel room clearly. Then it ended. The people at the hotel were looking at us weird, It felt like they knew what was going on, but I didn’t care at the time.

I was just completely shocked to see myself acting like i did. This isn’t the first time i regressed to see myself having an angry fit. I feel i was drunk during this memory, but I’m not really sure. I can see now that i had some really bad issues in that life. I wonder if i was always an abusive drunk, which could be why i feel so reluctant to drink or get drunk in this life. It's just strange because through my regressions i always seem to come out as the victim, the poor girl who married an abusive alcoholic and had all her dreams shattered. But now i see i wasn’t as much a victim as i thought. Ever since my first regression i knew i didn’t love my daughter as much as i should of, and had the thought she ruined my life. I just never dreamed i actually physically abused her as well. Now i just wonder where she is now, is she still alive as a 77-year-old woman, or did she die and reincarnated somewhere else. I hope i will meet her in this life, to perhaps work through some of our issues. My theory is she will be my child in this life, so we can redo our parent child relationship in a much better setting.
 
Also have any of you ever noticed that maybe our past life selves, influence what we see and dont see in a regression. On more than one occasion, i have tried to make something different in a regression, but its hard to explain. Like this current one, I was just in shock, and thought this can't be true. Did I block out this memory and just remember it now, or could my subconsious self been keeping the memory from me? I'm not sure if i am making sense. But all im saying is, do you think our regressions can be influenced, not by our present mind, but our past one? People always say regressions can have bits of fantasy in it, but could some of that fantasy come from our PL personality? Such as in my case covering up my abuse of my daughter, or making excuses for my abusive husband? or just little things that make us seem better.
 
Those are very strong memories, Hippy16! I could read that a lot of emotions were involved.
I also believe that the more we grow in our belief in past lives, and the more 'experienced' we become in 'remembering', the more memories will surface that we supressed before because we would have been too shocked or overwhelmed by re-living them.


Eevee
 
Hi Hippy

I think it is great that you had such a detailed regression. I noticed you said that 1943 has been a year that has come up for you in other regressions and is somehow significant to you. Do you feel that maybe this year was particuarly important maybe like some major event that that had a strong impact on you?. Do you have any distinct feelings when you think of 1943 as to why it was so important.

Kind Regards
Kay
 
Perhaps we do repress memories deliberately to save ourselves pain or embarassment. Perhaps as Evee says, it just takes a bit more practice to get to some levels of detail beneath the basic elements of a memory. You seem to be getting the hang of it now, which is good and getting ever more information. I would like to see you have a go without the tapes and see where going at your own pace might lead you, now that you know the way 'in', even if it takes a few goes to get it happening.

With me it is sometimes that I know 'something bad' happened, but I am not sure what it was. Sometimes I don't want to know! Sometimes it takes a few tries before I can get to it and I have to be in a good frame of mind to tackle a serious one, otherwise I just leave it to another time if I am not feeling very brave - but you know what some of mine are like! Yikes!

I don't think we really keep secrets from ourselves deliberately, because, well, we know all about ourselves really. We know where all the skeletons are hidden after all. I knew my most recent life 'ended badly' but I did not really know how badly or what exactly happened until fairly recently. I knew there were plenty of things I did that I was not, and am not now, proud of, but I found out more recently some of the background of how I managed to get myself into that predicament so I actually feel a lot more sympathetic towards myself now, whereas I used to feel a kind of disgust about myself - but that could also have been leaking through from that life - I don't think I liked myself that life - low self-esteem we would call it these days.

Understanding that also explained my sometimes irrational fears about security as I have an underlying worry that things will spiral out of control if I don't keep right on top of everything. I have learned to relax a little bit in recent years and have a bit of a laugh at myself now and again. Another one of the benefits of this kind of work, even if it can be a bit upsetting in the short term.
 
Eevee: That is probably the case, I just found it so strange to see myself acting the way i did. I was disgusted.

Carribean: Yeah this is the second time i returned to 1943, I'm not sure what was significant about that year. When i think back on 1943, i feel kind of sad. like not sad sad, but like depressed kind of sad. which is exactly how i felt in this most recent Christmas memory. The house was dark, and the blue dusk light was coming in. It was cold. I was alone (metaphorically most likely). It could be the year i lost contact with Richard? The year he died? I am not sure if he died, or just "broke" it off with me. But i know it happened sometime in the 40's as i don't have any memories of him really at that time. We met in the late 20's, and had an ongoing affair long after my marriage and my daughter’s birth. But i know (i just know) that we lost contact somehow. So perhaps that is what happened. I feel so sorry for myself though looking back, It almost seems i can "remember" that depression i felt in those years. I am so glad i have a good life now, and I'm happy i am working through some of my issues.

Tang: I know what you mean. After my regression, i really hated myself. Even now, i am disgusted by what i did. I know it wasn’t a one time thing, i can feel tears welling up just thinking about it. She didn’t deserve it. and i can't stop wondering about her today. If she is still alive, or not. I wonder how the rest of her life went, I'm sure having two abusive parents scarred her. I just can't believe i was abusive towards her. Although i'm sure the emotional abuse she received from me hurt her more than the physical abuse.
 
Yes, it's tough Hippy16 seeing yourself doing things you are not proud of, but don't be too hard on yourself about the past. Assure yourself that it won't happen again. That is all you can do in any case.

We don't know all ends. I am sure that some of the hardships and indeed, beatings, I suffered in my last life have caused me to be a lot more compassionate and gentle in this life, not least of all with my own children. They also made me mentally tougher in some ways, but in a different way to being in 'warrior' mode (although that gave me a lot of courage). My mother, in this life, was somewhat inclined to go off the deep end and be quite violent with us as children when the fit took hold of her as it did all too often, but I was largely unphased by all that (takes more than a woman with a broomstick to frighten me) although it upset my sisters somewhat. Although it does not make it right, people used to treat their children much more harshly than they do now on average.

I have learned to stand up to various emotional difficulties I have had to get through in this life, which requires a different type of toughness. Sometimes when things go wrong in this life I can always say 'oh well, could have been a whole lot worse'.

Remember the proverb: That which does not kill me makes me strong.
 
Hi Hippy16,

Maybe Phoenix will chime in here. Phoenix had a life in Nazi Germany and is not proud of that life. I know Phoenix did a lot of work to come to terms with some of the horror of it.

Try not to get too bogged down with the abuse. It does sound horrible but you are not that person anymore.
 
Hippy,

I feel that in every life we make mistakes. In some lives we are the victims, in others we are the aggressors. Its important to keep in mind that you are a different person, and to not be too hard on yourself. In days gone by it was not uncommon for parents to strike their children. Also I have read about many women who lived during the 1930's who succumbed to alcohol abuse (perhaps due to growing up during the Prohibition era) who dealt with abusive husbands. Also, during that life do you remember your own parents? Were they abusive towards you? Maybe you were merely repeating their mistakes?

It might give you some closure in this life if you are able to remember your name (first and last) from that life, and start tracking down your children, and maybe your grandchildren from that life. You might be amazed to find out what type of person you were in that life by talking to them.
 
Hippy, have you seen this thread: Have you been a violent person in a previous life?....you may find it helpful if you're having a hard time dealing with past life issues. Have a read through it and you'll find some more links in there to other threads that you may find useful.

Take care now

Chris...;)
 
Thanks for all of the replies guys..

Tang, and Vickie: Yeah, i mean i know i am not her anymore, infact we are a lifetime apart(the missing years of 1949-1986) and I am sure i wont repeat those mistakes at least. It is just difficult to "remember" those events. It's one thing to remember a life as an abused wife or child, its another thing entirely to remember a life as an abusive person. I think its easier to be the victim in a past life, than the villain. But i guess it was just something i needed to see, so i can grow from it.?

Obie: Yeah i guess it was a fairly common scenario to both be, and be married to an alcoholic in those days. It just wasn’t considered a problem back then? Or I am assuming it wasnt. About my mother, I regress to my childhood alot, and always seem to remember in only a few ways. She is always just kind of there, i love her deeply in the memory, and she usually tells me something. She was the kind of person, that when i see her i can see so much history there, that they keep to themselves. I know she must have also had a very difficult life, but i dont think i knew about it when i was young, if at all. I have never regressed to time when my mother was mean to me. They are usually pleasant memories. Although something that dawned on me just today was the man i bumped into may have been a boyfriend of my moms. Which i kind of get the idea, they were not very nice to me. But i'm not sure. My mother was alive when i died however, and was the only person who truely cared about me. Also have never had any memories of my father. He either died, or just abandoned us soon after i was born. I was an only child as well, atleast as far as i know.

But something else i may need to mention is in two separate regressions to my childhood in that life (1922-24) I was attacked by a man. One time he was wearing a burlap sack over his head, with eyes cut out. another time he was just down by the river. In what seemed like a mechanics suit. idk. he was dirty. I always pull quickly away from the memory. And it seems to happen when i "walk" away from the house, and try to explore the little town i lived in. I am sure something very traumatic must have happened, but i just dont want to think about that at this time.

I am sure it will be many more years until I feel i can let that life go, and explore the life directly after that one. But I am starting to see the big picture. It's just weird, thinking back on my first regression. all of the thoughts and feelings were there, but now i know why.

chris: I will check out that thread, thanks!
 
Hippy16,

Being attacked by two men as a young child sounds traumatic enough to turn someone into an alcoholic.

Vicky
 
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