America

[tanguerra]

Still gathering up the bits and pieces. I date this one before the 'discovery' of the Americas - so before 1492, but when exactly, who can say? Strangely, all of my 'memories' of this one have been in the way of real time conversations. I don't have that with any of the others. The story of Lahihimba:

I have an odd one. One time, in this life, I was in a bit of a state as I was quitting smoking and also going through a romance related upset and was all worked up and stressed out and feeling very emotionally distressed. I went out to sit quietly on the verandah at a friend's house to get a breath of air and try to calm myself down. I was looking at clouds when I remembered being an American Indian man who was sitting in the snow, in hiding, up in the trees on a hill overlooking an indian village at night. He was waiting for another man to come out of his tee-pee because he was going to shoot him (with an arrow) for some vendetta reason or other - not sure of the details and not even sure that he was that sure of all the wherefores either. A matter of high honour of some sort between the two groups of people. I had the sense it had been going on for a long time. Perhaps the original reason for it had got lost somewhere?

He had been sitting there silently in the snow waiting for several days without eating, drinking, sleeping or making a sound because the other guy knew they were after him and was very wary. He was also in a bit of a state with hunger and stress but suddenly we were 'aware' of each other. I was remembering him and he somehow knew I was there remembering him, if that makes any sense. He thought he was having some sort of vision (which he was really) but was outraged that he would be a weak woman who was all upset about a matter of the heart. I remember him thinking that surely in the future he, such a big, brave, strong man would not become a woman!!! He considered this a bit of a backward step.

I on the other hand retorted to him (mentally - however you describe it) if he was so very superior what was he doing trying to kill someone? He seemed a bit dumbfounded by this question. He had never questioned this (he was fairly young) and considered it his duty and a matter of honour to be brave and strong and so forth on behalf of his people. We had a wordless debate about the merits of learning to struggle with complex emotional issues and the merits of solving problems with violence and which was more difficult or worthwhile. It kind of faded out there. My friend (in real life) came out to chat with me on the verrandah and I lost 'the connection'.

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I have the sense that this was all a very long time ago, before the arrival of Europeans in the Americas. Certainly white people did not seem to figure in this guy's life in any way shape or form.

 

[tanguerra]

From 'Living all our lives at once; http://www.reincarnationforum.com/fo...-lives-at-once

...I was messing about with relaxation breathing techniques the other night (as I have been dishing out advice on how to do it) and we just 'got into each other's heads' if you know what I mean - just like that - and had a bit of a 'chat'. He was camping out, on his own and in a relaxed state and I was lying in my bed and we began a dialogue.
We were swapping questions about our lives. I answered some questions for him about my life, my family and so on. He was very curious about 'the future', various technologies we have for instance. To him it was a bit like me watching 'The Jetsons' with flying cars and robots and such. He was just astonished at some concepts of the international nature of society now and world population growth, foreign cultures, street lights, TV, electricity and on and on. I mostly just showed him pictures, but explained as best I could if he had a question


Anyway, so I asked him to tell me about his life. He lives up north somewhere. There are many tall mountains and it is very cold, especially in the winter, up near Canada, or even in Canada somewhere I am guessing. They don't have horses and the concept was quite foreign to him. There are no white people, even in rumour. His grandfather's mother was of the Innuit ('eskimo') people, so he said. She came from somewhere even further north than my guy. There was a bit of a joke, bit of teasing, in the village about how he and his family don't feel the cold because of this - because he is part 'eskimo'. He had a tiny little chuckle about this gag, which everyone thinks is hilarious apparently, and he takes it as a point of honour never to complain about the cold, no matter how cold he actually might feel. He reckons he has them all fooled. Heh! heh! heh!


I asked him why he was so sad and seems kind of grumpy a lot of the time. He told me about how his little daughter (her name is La-Hi-Henya) had died when she was aged about 8 or 10. I am not sure exactly what happened, an illness of some sort, but he remembered holding her little thin body when she died and it was extremely sad for him. Life is pretty tough I am guessing, particulary in winter. His wife is a shrew and she blamed him for some reason and they had not been happy together since that happened. Mostly he preferred being off on his own these days and not dealing with it.


I asked him if he ever did really get that guy in the revenge thing he was engaged in when we first 'met'. Oh yes, of course he did! The guy came out eventually and he shot him right in the eye, just like he would one of the 'elk people' (this was all conveyed in a montage of images and I just 'knew' what he meant anyway). Ever since then though he has had a much harder time killing anything, even elk people, and before that he never used to think about it much really, let alone get upset about it. He could not show me what he looks like, because he does not know. They don't have mirrors, but people say he looks like his brother, so he showed me what his brother looks like. They have very heavy brow ridges and very high cheek bones, very dark skin, long black hair, sometimes neatly tied back, sometimes messy - there was a kind of composite picture show of various different images of his brother. His brother seems a bit more cheery than he is.


I asked him if he knew any people from my life now. I did not have to use their names, just had the 'feeling' of them. Oh yes, bingo. Several people from my life now are part of his life. (My friend X was his little daughter) I explained to him a few of the mysteries of the universe which I have been able to discover, we are all immortal, we meet up again and again, the nature of 'god' however you conceive her, that sort of thing. This was mind-blowing but also very comforting to him, particulary in relation to his daughter. He had always wondered about these things in an idle way (when gazing at the stars as I do) and was obviously familiar with his traditional stories and explanations, but always took all that with a grain of salt. He never really thought he would get an answer in this way from himself in the future!


[i identified the 'shrew' wife as my present life sister. Exactly the same 'vibe' - the facial expressions, the bitterness... the love triangle with she and I and X - so possessive on her part, so unconditional on mine...]


I told him to stand up to his wife and not let her manipulate him with her sharp tongue or to let him take the blame for everything (showing him some of the patterns in our relationship over the longer term was very instructive to him!) but also to treat her with great love and understanding at the same time because this was her way of mourning the daughter and she had not let it go yet and was just using anger to keep sorrow away. He thought this was good advice and decided when he got home he would 'call her bluff' but also embrace her with love and understanding.


We chatted away about all sorts of other stuff for some time that I won't go into. Mainly comparing notes on cultural details and how different it feels in a male and female body and so forth. A very vivid and interesting experience.

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Well, it felt like the past to 'me', but the present to 'him'. It's a funny feeling I guess. But, as per the discussions above, my take on linear time is a bit 'out there' at the best of times.
I think my co-person or whatever you call him, is a bit more in touch with the spirit world than some of the other 'mes' have been. Perhaps this is due to his Native cultural traditions of dreaming and spirit travel? When we first 'met' he was in a bit of a state, with the cold and hunger and lack of sleep and so was probably more open to it. Since then we have been able to communicate now and again. Once we found the way to each other it has got easier.


This 'conversation' went on for about an hour until both of us decided we needed to get some sleep - he curled up under his animal skins and me ensconced in my doonah. It is kind of funny really, isn't it?

 

[tanguerra]

From 'Moving through grief': http://www.reincarnationforum.com/threads/moving-through-grief.1163/#post-25103

I wrote a while ago about the long 'chat' I had with one of my previous selves - a Native American man. He was very sad because his little daughter had died of some kind of wasting disease and his wife had blamed him for it and made his life a misery ever afterwards, etc.
He was surprised but thrilled to learn that the same spirit which was his daughter is now alive and (relatively) well and a friend of mine and very much part of my life. Sometimes when I see my friend I get a sort of secret thrill knowing how happy my former self would be just to be sitting there chatting away about nothing with this person who has always filled me with delight. He had the same feeling of delight about his little daughter before she died - exactly the same feeling, exactly the same person.

I have a very strong memory of the death of the little girl (La-Hi-Hinya). I don't think I've written any detail of it elsewhere, or I can't find it, but I remember sitting in our tee-pee holding her little, lifeless body in my arms after she died and being the most upset I ever was about anything in that life.


Very heart wrenching!

 

[tanguerra]

From 'Living all our lives at once':

...Another time 'he' actually contacted 'me'. I don't really remember what I was doing - nothing much probably, maybe reading in the back garden or something. He was sitting in counsel on an important matter (a difficult problem with a neighbouring group needing to be resolved - it was connected with the assassination situation above and an ongoing feud which was not really being healed by this vendetta situation). He had deliberately invoked the advice of 'spirit woman' on this important matter. I got an image of him sitting in a circle with a group of other men in a smoke filled tent. Suddenly, I just became aware of 'him' trying to get my attention, so I put down my book, closed my eyes and focussed. I counseled, as usual, that they should find a peaceful solution as violence would only ultimately lead to more violence... simple enough advice really!

 

[tanguerra]

Another bit of contact from Lahihimba on another occasion from 'Living all our lives at once'. I can't really recall how this one came about - probably one of those 'just drifting off to sleep' things, but we sort of picked up the threads of our earlier "conversation". On this occasion, although I don't think I mentioned it here, 'he' could also 'see' me sitting across the fire from him, all blonde hair and bangles. I must have looked like quite an apparition to him!:


Living all our lives at once: http://www.reincarnationforum.com/threads/living-all-our-lives-at-once.787/page-4#post-17944

...He was sitting quietly by a fire at the 'time', out on his own camping, 'on patrol', or hunting or just getting away from his wife, or all of the above. I could almost 'see' what he was seeing, as he sat by the fire, putting small twigs in now and again, as you do when you sit by the fire and 'think deeply'.
We had a long 'discussion' and realised that some of the important people from 'his' life are also in 'my' life, including his shrew wife (my sister) and his little daughter who had died (my friend X). We gave each other relationship advice. I told him to call his wife's bluff as most of her huffing and puffing is a big act! He told me to be patient with X and take the best possible care of him. We 'both' delighted at the memory of his little daughter, her lightness and general joie de vivre, and also her fragility, so like X in so many ways. He kept advising me to be softer, gentler and more 'feminine' (like a good woman should) and I was advising him to stand up to his wife in general and not let her bully him, but also to be a bit less gruff and more sympathetic because her outward unpleasantness was masking a very unhappy inside (knowing my sister as well as I do).

Also, my father from this life was his best friend/cousin in that one.

 

[tanguerra]

From Poland. This happened quite spontaneously one evening when I was just brushing my teeth and minding my own business (I'm such a 'nut'!):


Poland: http://www.reincarnationforum.com/threads/poland.1284/#post-27633

... The power of the mind is really quite extraordinary. I have been doing this for a really long time but, anyone could try focussing love and so forth to a past situation and it would surely make them feel at least a little bit better ...
As to being able to influence past or future outcomes of events by going back and warning your past self of imminent danger for instance you get yourself in a space-time continuum tangle if you look at time as a long skinny line as opposed to something more multi-dimensional (and give yourself a headache). Is it symbollic? Is it 'real'? Why not both?...


Once I had a three way conversation going with Native American guy (whose name is "La-hi-himba") and my future self when future-me was troubled about something going on in the future and I was (will be?) feeling a bit out of my depth, stressed out, etc. [i have had various flashes forward to being involved in some kind of high level role in the UN or future equivalent, this was one of those. At the time it seemed to me that war, or at least armed conflict, was imminent and seemed unavoidable and I was in a dilemma as to the best course of action.]


'Myself now' reminded 'future self' of the book I have written recently on the topic of love, just stick to basic principles and you can't go wrong, etc. and Lahihimba chimed in as well telling future-me to remember that we simply don't get pushed around and to stand firm like a mountain and let the rivers flow around as they will (Lahihimba is very poetic and visual in his imagery - probably because he speaks a different language and we must rely on images, metaphors and pictures to communicate).


Present-me then told future-me to cancel all appointments, take a break, clear my head of distractions, and go back to basics and remember what it was we were trying to achieve and all would be well. Who knows if 'I' did it, but I got the feeling I did and it will all work out OK. (I hope that is all clear! We really don't have a construction in English to cover the future/past tense in this situation!)

 

[sellingmysoul]

Wow, Tanguerra. These visions you have of this Native American are quite intense, I take it. Did these visions all come about through meditation? Is meditation really that powerful?

 

[tanguerra]

Hi Vincent,


As I describe, a couple of times these things just happened spontaneously and a couple of times through deliberately meditating. A lot of my experiences are just spontaneous. I think it's just the way my brain works, but I've been having past life memories since early childhood.


Yes, meditation is that powerful, but it can take a bit of practice to get really good at it. Some people have trouble concentrating at first for example.